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Dark,

Did you get the Winjet fog lights and install them yourself? Link to the fogs themselves HERE.

Questions for anybody who has installed them...

1. Do i just use the H and A OEM instructions?
2. I have seen one poster that had problems with connectors... Do i need to buy adapters or something?
3. Is the switch that comes with the kit like the OEM switch or is it some half arsed cheapo switch?
4. Are there any additional tricks or tips or things i should know before trying to instal these bad boys?
5. Much like #4... IS THERE ANYTHING AT ALL that i should know before attempting this instal?
6. What non-alcoholic beverage do you reccomend for the instal?
 

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DONT PAY 130... got mine for 70.00

Yes I installed the fogs myself...

Questions for anybody who has installed them...

1. Do i just use the H and A OEM instructions? (if you arent sure how to do it... watch my video on the install. search risingsun350 youtube)
2. I have seen one poster that had problems with connectors... Do i need to buy adapters or something? No kit comes with everything you need
3. Is the switch that comes with the kit like the OEM switch or is it some half arsed cheapo switch? the switch is OEM made by HONDA4. Are there any additional tricks or tips or things i should know before trying to instal these bad boys? (again watch the video any additional info you need pm me)
5. Much like #4... IS THERE ANYTHING AT ALL that i should know before
attempting this instal?
6. What non-alcoholic beverage do you reccomend for the install hahaha thats completely up to you


How to install new grill and fog lights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QwSDw0U7cc
 

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Sweetness, thanks dark... cant unbuy them now... already paid for em =( thats probly what i get for not looking around longer though.
 

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dark... are you sure you had the WINJET fogs? My stuff doesnt match up with the oem instructions AT ALL! its all wonkey! they may have simply shipped the wrong wiring harness. i am contacting the company i ordered through to fix the issue. I will provide further details on the situation.

Would be nice if they came with instructions.

EDIT: I have them installed... not exactly 100% satisfied with the results due to how the fog lights function... i will have a full writeup later.

Further edit... almost dissatisfied enough to take it all out and return it... almost, but not today.

Basically, the only OEM instructions i followed were the ones that show you how to cut and mount the fog lights on the bumper. When i got to the inside, all you have to do is ground the black wire (black wires are almost always ground so it was a safe bet) Set the switch, Run the positive wire (the one with the black sheath around it and the actual wire is blue with grey stripe) through one of the rubber grommets to the outside up over the fender and back to the fog light wiring harness. I followed the oem fog light harness routing instructions. Do NOT cut any existing wiring on the E. This is basically a standalone system.

back to the inside. Plug the single pin wire into the fusebox (sorry, this is only the SECOND thing you do following the oem instructions) mount the relay switch (which i am not sure what purpose it serves, more on this later) plug the 5 pin plug into the switch, replace all plastic parts you have done, mount the bumper while plugging the lights into the fog light assembly. and boom, you're ready to go.

What i dont like about this system are as follows:
1. Does not use OEM wiring harness.
2. lights can function no matter if your low beams are on or off, your car is on or off, or even if your high beams are on. (this is why i am not sure what the relay switch really does)
3. the switch that comes with it is a little wonkey. sometimes it works fine, but sometimes it wont stay on, or turn off properly (engage/disengage properly). To fix this while it wont engage (stays disengaged) i have to push it slightly to the side to get something in the switch to reset.

Other than those three major flaws, they work. They just dont enjoy the full functionality of the OEM fog lights. if i had to do it over again, i would purchase the OEM fog lights period end of statement. The only reason i am not taking them out and returning them is that i am lazy and i dont feel like pulling the bumper back off and taking it all out... putting the bumper and everything back... waiting a week and a half until the OEMs come in and doing it all over again (minus modifying the bumper of course). That said... they look great, and with a little bit of manipulation they are (somewhat, obviously not fully) functional.

if anybody has a workaround that wouldnt involve cutting more than 1 wire to make them at least switched (turn off when the car is off) let me know. I dont really want to fabricate a full up oem style wiring harness.

Again... spend the extra money on the OEM fog lights.




again more images available if you click my car link in my sig.
 

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Writeup above, more to follow should i be further aggravated.
 

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as to the relay switch...
it's intended to provide a high current path to the lights, so that you don't have to run high current thru your switch. (relays are designed for high current, typically 20, 30, 40 Amps in automotive applications.)
the trigger side of the relay should be energized by the switch.
if you want your fogs to go off when the key is switched off, or when the lights are off, you can use a key-switched source of power for the switch, rather than battery, or use the parking or headlight wire as a source of power for the switch.
 

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Thats weird mine was.... maybe you got a bad ebay seller?!
 

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didnt get mine on ebay... got em through a site... gonna keep in contact with em... they want pictures, but i really dont feel like pulling the bumper again.
 

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i'm gonna do this same install, but i was wondering how yours is holding up. the weight of the lights haven't warped the bar o anything have they? i'm thinking about putting 4 lights rather than just two. do you think it an support the weight? tats my only concern. thanks!
 

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It has worked out very well...no problems at all. We had a really bad winter here adn the lights did a great job. I still have brackets for sale if you need them. Just let me know.
 

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You should be fine with 4 if you can fit them in. They are really not that heavy and the brackets are wide enough so there isnt any flex at all....
 

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i'm gonna do this same install, but i was wondering how yours is holding up. the weight of the lights haven't warped the bar o anything have they? i'm thinking about putting 4 lights rather than just two. do you think it an support the weight? tats my only concern. thanks!
My installation is holding up perfectly. No warping, bending or loosening. I used high-quality bolts and nylon locking nuts. I have not had to adjust anything since aiming and tightening everything down (a few days after I created this thread).

The lights do bounce very slightly when driving but it's something I can live with since I only have them on when it's really foggy and/or rainy.

I think heavier lights will make more bounce. The brackets themselves are rock solid, it's the bar that they're attached to that flexes a bit when driving.

If I were adding more than the Hella 500's I would look for a way to "beef-up" the mounting point. Maybe adding a flat piece of aluminum behind the bar, bent and bolted to the two protruding bumper points.
 

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Fog Lights for about $26

I bought some 3.5'" 55 watt halogen white lights from Wal-Mart for $18, and I needed some specific mounting hardware from the Home Depot. I haven't wired them yet, but I have mounted them. I'll take a picture of the mounting tonight when I take off the bumper to wire it again.

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Plus they came with a pretty cool illuminated rocker switch, so I'm mounting that tonight to complete the install. Then, HID's!
-TD
 

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Plus they came with a pretty cool illuminated rocker switch, so I'm mounting that tonight to complete the install. Then, HID's!
-TD
HID's? Don't forget to take a look at the widely popular and arguably best HID kit available from VVME. I still smile every time I turn mine on and I laugh every time I see someone with inferior HID's. Alright, I don't laugh, I shield my eyes because those cheapies blind the crap out of oncoming traffic.
 

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On all of my vehicles i've never really veered off from OEM quality parts.
I know you'll see tons of users have good reviews on knock off electrical parts or ebay type items but depending on how long you keep the car or the quality of that particular one that arrives at your door.

I've seen many dash harness or headlight harness fried from "cheap" wiring and plugs or thin lenses & honestly, with the cost of those parts I feel you just sleep better knowing that you don't have some sketchy wiring in yoru garage at night.

Thats just my .02
but i can see how some people can jump at the price savings when you see 200+ vs 40-50

Good luck either way!
 

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Anyone seen any Hella 500 fog lights at Walmart?

I screwed up. It turns out that the HID installation is so good that Hella 500 DRIVING lights (spot beam, more or less) are somewhat redundant and useless. What I really should have gotten were the Hella 500 FOG lights..... funny thing is is that the box stated fog, but the visible fixture in the box front had a stone cover on it - low and behold they are spot lights.

So I have searched four local Walmarts thus far looking for a Fog light box but when I do find the Hella 500's, they're all driving beams. My plan is to take the driving beams and shove them into the box that had the fog beams in it, and then return it (I know, I'm going to hell, but I won't be like the guy before me that placed the stone cover over the lens to obfuscate the next buyer). I need fogs before the lake above me begins puking snow at 4 inches per hour and I have to crawl along at 2 miles an hour looking for the edge of the street. And of course I already have wiring and mounts for Hella 500's (which I have always been fond of - I don't really want to drop another $50-$80 on another set of lights).

So anyone noticed Hella 500 fogs at their Wally world in their neck of the woods? Amazon isn't working so well either (Hella Fogs for $85... I paid $65 at Walmart).

Thanks for any replies which my lend hope to my least important situation :)
 
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