[SauceBox]

Still love my 6th gear, couple thousand miles, and new struts later, my lunar shuttle cruzes 90 on the freeway like nothing, drop it in 5th to pass just about anyone, or to keep speed at an incline, it's a freeway monster,

Lost my window plastics, btw, serous cross wind, lol clips don't hold up to 90mph, and 80mph cross winds lol hahah,

Anyone have the hookup on the drivers idea window plastic and clips,

And a way to epoxy or doubles tick tape them. Lol


6th gear purring like a cat,

 

[Novasteve74]

So, not to beat a dead horse into a pulp.... but I have a question regarding the 5-6 syncro sleeve set. Is the ENTIRE sleeve set necessary, or is it really only the brass syncro ring for 5th/6th that's needed, since that part seems to be the hangup? I have a bead on JUST the brass syncro ring without the rest of the set and am wondering if that would be enough for the swap (along with the other necessary parts), as it is considerably cheaper than the whole sleeve set. I understand it SHOULD be replaced as a set (and maybe I'm answering my own question here). Thoughts?

 

[cyrways]

Getting close. Just need to torque a couple bolts, measure shim thrust for mainshaft and differential, then seal it up. This was a 2WD converted to 4WD transmission and 6th gear added, along with full rebuild of the seals, bearings, and aynchros. Ended up having to replace 2nd gearset due to wear.

 

[Cunha]

Very cool.

Not quite a necro post but it seems unclear if you can get away without the 350 dollar synchronizer sleeve set 23626-PNS-315

Can anyone clarify?

 

[nacranym]

Very cool.

Not quite a necro post but it seems unclear if you can get away without the 350 dollar synchronizer sleeve set 23626-PNS-315

Can anyone clarify?

it depends on when your vehicle was made. some early ones were better than later ones. some will work for awhile and then fail, as mine did 140K miles after the conversion. if you don't want to have to R&R the transmission a second time, get & use the synchro set.

 

[Cunha]

Mines an 04. One guy mentioned 5th gear popout without the new set. Did you have this experience?

There isnt a single part that can be used instead of the complete set?

140k is plenty long in my book.

 

[nacranym]

Mines an 04. One guy mentioned 5th gear pop out without the new set. Did you have this experience?

There isnt a single part that can be used instead of the complete set?

140k is plenty long in my book.

mine is 2004 also. yes, it would pop out of gear. 6th gear was added at about 40K, and pop out started around 180K, vehicle is now approaching 240K.

and, as always, your mileage may vary...

 

[Cunha]

Thanks a ton for all of your insight here.

Before 180k miles, did you have any pop out issues? The poster i was referring to mentioned pop out from 5th since day one.

Saving 350 seems like a good plan. I prefer to do it right, but if I do everything right Im going to spend money on a clutch I dont need, and a 900 dollar LSD I can live without. Project creep is quick.

 

[Cunha]

Are there any other parts that would be wise to replace while the tranny is out? My car is about 102,000 miles so I will do the clutch.

Like syncho for gear 2-3 or some other parts that get more than typical wear? Or does that syncho sleeve set we discussed replace all of the synchos? Sorry not super well versed in manual transmission components. Haven't cracked one open.

Thanks

 

[Mixtiffinuel94]

Thank for the best plan

 

[Crstothard]

Still love my 6th gear, couple thousand miles, and new struts later, my lunar shuttle cruzes 90 on the freeway like nothing, drop it in 5th to pass just about anyone, or to keep speed at an incline, it's a freeway monster,

Lost my window plastics, btw, serous cross wind, lol clips don't hold up to 90mph, and 80mph cross winds lol hahah,

Anyone have the hookup on the drivers idea window plastic and clips,

And a way to epoxy or doubles tick tape them. Lol


6th gear purring like a cat,

Howdy! I have had my 4WD manual shift for a year and digging it supremely! May I ask, what RPM do you run in 6th gear at 80 mph? Looking down and seeing 4k RPM gives me a little heartburn. Thanks!

 

[KargoMaster]

If memory serves me correctly, (and at this point in life, I'm a little skeptical in general...) I think I'm at 3200rpm at 80mph in 6th gear...
The 4000rpm at 80mph mark is a nice familiar sight/sound...

I'm glad I did it... (and with all syncro bits)
Although if my off-road project ends up with a 6th gear (possible, may not be probable), I will likely put that syncro money elsewhere...

 

[nacranym]

If memory serves me correctly, (and at this point in life, I'm a little skeptical in general...) I think I'm at 3200rpm at 80mph in 6th gear...
The 4000rpm at 80mph mark is a nice familiar sight/sound...

I'm glad I did it... (and with all syncro bits)
Although if my off-road project ends up with a 6th gear (possible, may not be probable), I will likely put that syncro money elsewhere...

yeah, seems about right, as mine is about 2700 at 70MPH in 6th.

 

[dquangt]

So this works for any MT Element or only certain years?

 

[Watt-man]

So this works for any MT Element or only certain years?

All years of the MT Element.

 

[dquangt]

All years of the MT Element.

Good to know, thank you.

 

[KargoMaster]

Believe this or not... I just bought the bits to do this job again... although this time I just couldn't stomach another 5-6 synchro set...

I paid ~$380 for the 7 plug-and-play pieces... The synchro would've DOUBLED my cost... At one time, 5-6 Synchro was $230, now $380... ouch.

This is going in my 2007 SC K24A8 Manual Transmission... which I had to take apart to Lincoln lock the differential anyway...
More to that story, but it will wait for appropriate off-road sub-forum...

My 6MT Zippy (daily driver) is still chugging away... two marathons a day... (I live ~26.2 miles from work)

Cheers!
-Brad

 

[KargoMaster]

Potential problem...

24430-PNS-000 Interlock

It seems to be "Back-ordered - NO ETA" about everywhere I think I find it... on my third order for that piece... all other pieces are on their way...
I'll mod one if I have to (might even have Zippy's around still to modify), but I would prefer to drop in the right one... 🤷‍♂️

-Brad

 

[x-out]

Checking the suggested parts list from the earlier pages, many of these parts have jumped in price or are difficult to source.

Is anyone making the leap to 6th gear these days?