I dropped off my 2005 Element (166K miles) with the local Honda dealer to replace the knock sensor. The check engine light was on and I was pulling a 295 code. They called me back an hour later to tell me that I was right about the code and that they have the knock sensor in stock and would replace it. The service rep. also told me that the front brake pads were worn and needed to be replaced. Like a dummy, I didn't look up my repair records to notice that I had had a complete brake job, including calipers, only 26,000 miles ago. The guy also told me that the right front caliper was seized and needed to be replaced. I wondered how he could possibly know that unless he had already pulled the caliper without my authorization. I told him that I had already had the front calipers changed twice and that I would not pay for another caliper. He claimed that the caliper would prevent him from doing the brake job. I told him to give it a try. I was called later in the afternoon to come pick up the car. Notice that when he told me that the brake job needed to be done, he never gave me any price. Again, I was a dummy not to ask. I was stunned to hear that the cost of the job was just under $1,100. That's $1,100 to replace front pads, front rotors and a knock sensor. As it turned out, the seized caliper seem to have come unseized. When I asked him about the $680 in labor costs, he told me their hourly rate was $170. They charged me $175 for the knock sensor part. When I got home, I called another Honda dealer to get a price on the knock sensor and was given a price of $152. I found after market sensors for from $16 to $56. When I reamed the service rep., he knocked $200 off the cost and notated the invoice with $200 coupon. I told him flat out he will never see the car again. I don't ever intend to go back to that dealer. When I got home, I did a search for nominal cost to do the work. The highest price I got was about $700. Yes, that's probably not Honda dealer rates. I'd like to hear what other people have to say about this. Am I right or am I off base? Lesson learned: don't ever pay a dealership $170 an hour to do monkey work.