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Looks like some of our Elements may need some new airbags...

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TOKYO -- The recall storm embroiling Takata Corp.’s airbags widened today with Honda Motor Co., Nissan Motor Corp. and Mazda Motor Corp. calling back nearly 3 million vehicles to fix possibly defective inflator propellant made in North America.

Honda recalled 2.03 million vehicles worldwide, including 1.02 million in North America, 153,943 in Europe and 668,582 in Japan. The vehicles were manufactured between April 2000 and October 2002. In North America, they cover the Civic, CR-V, Odyssey and Element. In Europe, affected models are the Civic, Stream, Fit/Jazz and CR-V.

Mazda called back 159,807 vehicles worldwide, including 14,794 in North America, 90,259 in Europe and 11,832. That recall covers the RX-8 and first-generation Mazda6.

Nissan’s recall affects 755,000 units worldwide. The total includes 228,000 vehicles in North America, including the Infiniti FX35, Pathfinder and Cube, and 128,000 nameplates in Japan, including the X-Trail and Teanna. Nissan did not provide a European breakout.

The June 23 triple action pushes to nearly 10 million the number of vehicles recalled worldwide over the past five year to fix Takata airbags.

Two deaths have been linked to faulty airbags in Hondas, both of which occurred in the United States in 2009, and the company said it knows of 41 cases of ruptured airbags.

Spokespeople for Nissan and Mazda said they have received no reports of injuries.

The three companies said they will replace the defective parts.

“We apologize for the trouble caused to our clients,” said Kikko Takai, a Takata spokeswoman. “We take it seriously and will strengthen our quality control to prevent a repeat of the issue.”

Faulty inflators

The latest recalls target possibly defective airbag inflators that were not included in a worldwide April 2013 recall by Honda, Mazda, Nissan and Toyota Motor Corp.

Takata informed the companies earlier this month that faulty inflators may have slipped through the cracks and been delivered to manufacturers because of faulty record-keeping.

The lapses occurred at Takata plants in North America, a Honda spokeswoman said. The potentially defective parts were shipped to assembly plants worldwide.

The Honda, Mazda and Nissan callbacks come nearly two weeks after Toyota Motor Corp. issued a similar action to fix Takata airbags installed in its vehicles.

Tokyo-based Takata, the world's No. 2 auto safety equipment maker, said at the time that more recalls could come to fix glitches dating back to the early 2000s.

The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said then it was also investigating potentially defective inflators in vehicles produced by Nissan, Mazda and Chrysler.

Chrysler Group said it will notify some vehicle owners in four tropical regions that it will honor NHTSA’s request to replace air bag inflators in 2006 Dodge Chargers.

Chrysler’s action right now only covers 2006 Dodge Chargers registered in Florida, Hawaii, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands. The automaker said it was pre-empting its own established protocols for dealing with potential defects to deal with the inflators “out of an abundance of caution.” The company said that it had been notified of a single injury related to the issue.

BMW said today that it is analyzing Takata airbags in a limited number of its cars in Hawaii, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. A BMW spokesman said the supplier’s airbags had been installed in the E46 3-series generation built between June 2000 and August 2006. These are similar, but not identical, to the airbags identified as being potentially problematic by other manufacturers.

"It is not a safety recall, it is a special technical campaign," the spokesman said, adding there were no known safety incidents involving Takata air bags in BMW cars.

Storage, faulty recording issues

The problems have been twofold: Problems with moisture and problems with record-keeping. Initially, moisture due to improper storage at the factory was believed to degrade the inflators causing them to explode, spraying pieces of metal into the cabin.

Meanwhile, faulty recording keeping by Takata has forced automakers to widen the 2013 recalls to cover vehicles that might have inadvertently received faulty propellant.

On June 11, Toyota called back 1.62 million vehicles outside Japan that previously had been recalled and 650,000 more in Japan not previously targeted.

That action brought the total number of Takata airbag recalls to 7 million vehicles worldwide, Reuters reported. The Honda, Nissan and Mazda recalls add to that total.

From 2000 to 2002, Takata plants in Washington and Mexico used some propellant that had been exposed to moisture. Takata fixed the problem at the factory, but faulty record-keeping hampered it from identifying those batches.

So the automakers issued huge recalls to track down all defective airbags.

In a statement issued June 20, Takata CEO Shigehisa Takada confirmed that the inflators may have been damaged by moisture but also cited humid weather as a possible cause.

“We currently believe the high levels of absolute humidity in those states [Florida, Puerto Rico] are important factors; and as a result our engineers are analyzing the impact that humidity may have on the potential for an inflator malfunction,” he said.

Bloomberg contributed to this report.
 

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Checked mine and it says no recalls. Sounds funny as mine is one of the years for the recall.
 

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i checked for both the 2004 and the 2006, no recalls.
i also noticed something about notices to owners going out in July, IIRC.
so maybe we're just too early in checking.
Probably only 2003 for "all states". Maybe too early regardless. Personally, I would check back later. You know how they like to sneak in additional models later so they don't look bad right away. Especially since it already lists ALL YEARS in specific high humidity States.

> manufactured between April 2000 and October 2002

If this is correct, the recall should apply only to 2003 Elements.
As stated before, see the link , see part 3:
3) Recalling certain models ever registered in, or first sold in, geographic regions known for high absolute humidity (Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands) to replace the driver’s front airbag inflator, free of charge. Affected models are:
• 2003-2011 Honda Element
At this time recall doesn't apply to all states

http://www.honda.com/newsandviews/article.aspx?id=7804-en
That's the same release. MY understanding is:

Some 2003, ALL STATES, input your VIN and see. Try again later just to be sure.
ALL 2003-2011 ever registered in, or first sold in, geographic regions known for high absolute humidity (Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin IslandsAlabama, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands

It's only 1 page you guys. Read it again. LOL. Just trying to be helpful.
 

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I called it! The recall was expanded!

I CALLED IT! THE RECALL WAS EXPANDED!

No "official" statement that I can find yet from Honda's own mouth (I saw this on local news), but the recall was expanded specifically to include California vehicles.

Techtimes Says:
With regards to replacing the driver's front air bag, the vehicles involved are Acura MDXs (2003 to 2006 models), Acura TLs and CLs (2002 and 2003), 2006 Ridgelines, Pilots (2003 to 2007 models), Odysseys (2002 to 2004), Elements (2003 to 2011), CR-Vs (2002 to 2006), Civics (2001 to 2005), Accords with V-6 engines (2001 and 2002), and Accords with four-cylinder engines (2001 to 2007).

NYTimes says pretty much the same.

I swear the local newsjerks also said the side-airbags (side of seat) were included too, but none of the web articles mention it. Probably misreported.

I checked my California '04, and still NOTHING shows up via Honda's site. ;(
 

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I CALLED IT! THE RECALL WAS EXPANDED!

No "official" statement that I can find yet from Honda's own mouth (I saw this on local news), but the recall was expanded specifically to include California vehicles.

Techtimes Says:
With regards to replacing the driver's front air bag, the vehicles involved are Acura MDXs (2003 to 2006 models), Acura TLs and CLs (2002 and 2003), 2006 Ridgelines, Pilots (2003 to 2007 models), Odysseys (2002 to 2004), Elements (2003 to 2011), CR-Vs (2002 to 2006), Civics (2001 to 2005), Accords with V-6 engines (2001 and 2002), and Accords with four-cylinder engines (2001 to 2007).

NYTimes says pretty much the same.

I swear the local newsjerks also said the side-airbags (side of seat) were included too, but none of the web articles mention it. Probably misreported.

I checked my California '04, and still NOTHING shows up via Honda's site. ;(
http://www.honda.com/newsandviews/article.aspx?id=7804-en quoted earlier in this thread mentions that the recall won't even start until late July, so it probably will not show up on the website until mid August.
 

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http://www.honda.com/newsandviews/article.aspx?id=7804-en quoted earlier in this thread mentions that the recall won't even start until late July, so it probably will not show up on the website until mid August.
Without going into a rant, my comments were mostly cynical, aimed at automakers protecting profit, not customers.

Making a single point at this time, how can they possibly tell the media, but NOT issue a press release for the expansion (that I could find)? Not even a link that says: "check back here for an update when we make a press release". It's been over a week.
 

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Without going into a rant, my comments were mostly cynical, aimed at automakers protecting profit, not customers.

Making a single point at this time, how can they possibly tell the media, but NOT issue a press release for the expansion (that I could find)? Not even a link that says: "check back here for an update when we make a press release". It's been over a week.
It takes time for counter measure parts to become available. Once sufficient supply is available affect registered owners will be notified by mail and official recall info will be posted.
 

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It takes time for counter measure parts to become available. Once sufficient supply is available affect registered owners will be notified by mail and official recall info will be posted.
I'd hope you were correct, but it still wouldn't make sense.
 

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I'd hope you were correct, but it still wouldn't make sense.
We as dealers go through this every time a major recall comes out.

When the recall for the Odyssey abs modulator was announced it took 5 months before parts were released to us.
 
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