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Happy new year everyone!

I'm happy to announce that lots of great things will be happening around here in 2008. One of those is that I will be a distributor for Fumoto drain valves. I hope to have them available for purchase in mid-January.

I'll keep you posted. As with any purchases through me, everything helps to keep this site free and moving forward in the right direction.

Thanks to everyone for their support!
 

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these do look cool, but i'd worried about hitting it with a rock! i drive off-road a bit and already have a good dent in the oil pan. if this drain were to shear off, you'd lose all your oil instantly!:shock:
 

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Just ordered one of these and I'm going to hit up the hardware store or home depot for the locking clip. Thanks guys!
 

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these do look cool, but i'd worried about hitting it with a rock! i drive off-road a bit and already have a good dent in the oil pan. if this drain were to shear off, you'd lose all your oil instantly!:shock:
THE reason I won't be putting one of these on my E. Now, the Si on the other hand....different story. She's a weekend ***** that never sees any offroad action. Might be nice to have with my 500 mile oil changes.
 

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Obviously I can't use a torque wrench on this thing...any tips on tightening? Doing my first oil change VERY soon.
 

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Question:

Did my oil change today and installed the valve as per the instructions on the fumoto site. When the 1/4 turn was done (****er is tight), the valve is upside down. I added the locking clip for safety but should I be worried about its orientation? Thanks in advance!
 

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I hate these.. I had one of these valves on my other car and it took forever for oil to drain meaning long ass time for oil change.

less time maintaining= more driving.
 

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It may go slower but You don't burn your hand when you drain your oil hot. It is the best to do it that way and most of us don't have a lift. I would say the product isn't designed for those folks that do. But, if you change it in the garage or driveway like I do, it is an excellent item.
 

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It may go slower but You don't burn your hand when you drain your oil hot. It is the best to do it that way and most of us don't have a lift. I would say the product isn't designed for those folks that do. But, if you change it in the garage or driveway like I do, it is an excellent item.
I don't like the idea of this valve. Why? For one, debris on the road ( ice, snow, road kill, etc ) can possibly open the valve. Sure it is a long shot but not a chance I am willing to take. Second, slow drain, besides taking more time, mean less contaminants coming from the engine and oil pan. A fast drain will remove more of these.

I use my garage and drive way all the time for all 4 of my cars. Buy some ramps. It only takes 30 seconds. There is easy access and the engine is tilted up and back so the oil drains faster. :D

As for burning your hand, I let the plug fall into the top of my oil container
( not pan), let it drain for 20-30 minutes. By then the oil is in the container and the plug is sitting next to the drain hole. EASY and no burns !

I say NO to the valve IMO..........
 

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I don't like the idea of this valve. Why? For one, debris on the road ( ice, snow, road kill, etc ) can possibly open the valve. Sure it is a long shot but not a chance I am willing to take. Second, slow drain, besides taking more time, mean less contaminants coming from the engine and oil pan. A fast drain will remove more of these.

I use my garage and drive way all the time for all 4 of my cars. Buy some ramps. It only takes 30 seconds. There is easy access and the engine is tilted up and back so the oil drains faster. :D

As for burning your hand, I let the plug fall into the top of my oil container
( not pan), let it drain for 20-30 minutes. By then the oil is in the container and the plug is sitting next to the drain hole. EASY and no burns !

I say NO to the valve IMO..........
You do realize that these two statements run counter to one another, right?

I have had a Fumoto installed for 3+ years and the difference between with and without the valve in terms of time taken is not more than 1-2 minutes. I open the valve and let it drain. I then go off and do other things that need to be done/looked at. When I am finished I close the valve and remove the filter. Not the end of the world.

If you don't like it because you're afraid it might possibly open from road debris that's fine, but I don't believe it has ever happened. But don't knock it because you think it drains slower when you allow your oil to drain 20-30 minutes normally!



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I don't like the idea of this valve. Why? For one, debris on the road ( ice, snow, road kill, etc ) can possibly open the valve. Sure it is a long shot but not a chance I am willing to take. Second, slow drain, besides taking more time, mean less contaminants coming from the engine and oil pan. A fast drain will remove more of these.

I use my garage and drive way all the time for all 4 of my cars. Buy some ramps. It only takes 30 seconds. There is easy access and the engine is tilted up and back so the oil drains faster. :D

As for burning your hand, I let the plug fall into the top of my oil container
( not pan), let it drain for 20-30 minutes. By then the oil is in the container and the plug is sitting next to the drain hole. EASY and no burns !

I say NO to the valve IMO..........

I ran one on my Isuzu Trooper for over 10 years. I had that truck off road, In deep snow, and blasting across corn fields in Maine. Never had so much as a drop leak out of it. You stand a much better chance of punching a hole in your oil pan.

I found it to be convenient, safe, and dependable.


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You do realize that these two statements run counter to one another, right?

I have had a Fumoto installed for 3+ years and the difference between with and without the valve in terms of time taken is not more than 1-2 minutes. I open the valve and let it drain. I then go off and do other things that need to be done/looked at. When I am finished I close the valve and remove the filter. Not the end of the world.

If you don't like it because you're afraid it might possibly open from road debris that's fine, but I don't believe it has ever happened. But don't knock it because you think it drains slower when you allow your oil to drain 20-30 minutes normally!
There is a misunderstanding here.

I let it drain that long while I do other things. It doesn't take 20-30 to drain the initial bulk of it. I just let that small amount at the end of the initial surge drain. You would be amazed how much you actually leave in the engine if you just pull the plug (open the valve ) and let it drain for a few minutes.

This is actually OLD SCHOOL thinking I admit but after seeing how much more I can get out, I have stuck with it. Been doing it this way for over 20 years.

I still believe the initial fast bulk that comes out at first carries away more contaminates that a slow flow from a valve. Just my opinion. I have seen valves on other systems restrict contaminates from coming out fully just due to the change in in the way fluid flows.
 

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I'm not positive that the flow volume will remove any more contaminants.

The only thing I would be able to fault, Is not having the Magnetic plug grab steel particulate.

However, in today engines there is far less of that than there was when the block was made of cast iron. I believe the difference would be negligible.

Dom
 
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