Unlike you folks on the continent, we E-ownere in Hawaii can't get it any lower than 1000 above sticker...(btw, nice work at picking up the clue of my location). I talked to every single dealer on the island and the lowest i could get it was 20k even. It would have gone lower, but elements arrive maybe at about 4 per week per dealer. That and the exact one i wanted was more in demand. If i wanted the orange one, they probably would have gone lower...the demand in Hawaii is so high, i don't see anyone getting sticker or below anytime soon.