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So, we have a 2004 Manual transmission Element. We had the clutch replaced in December. Immediately after getting the car back, it was grinding in to 3rd gear. It definitely did not do that before! The mechanic said he thinks it's the synchro and that the clutch is fine.

Now I have to take it to a transmission place to verify what's wrong before the mechanic will work on the clutch again.

Has anyone had experience with a bad synchro? The clutch only grinds into 3rd. The mechanic said this is a common problem with Elements, but I tried searching this site and didn't find anything that sounded the same. He said if it was a bad clutch, it would grind in all the gears.

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Did your theoretical mechanic replace the hydraulic cylinders when he replaced the clutch? It sounds like the clutch is not releasing completely. If it had a bad synchronizer it would have been bad before, not only after the clutch was replaced. Get a second opinion. Something does not make sense.

Why was the clutch replaced?
 

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The clutch only grinds into 3rd. The mechanic said this is a common problem with Elements, but I tried searching this site and didn't find anything that sounded the same. He said if it was a bad clutch, it would grind in all the gears.

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I think he's BSing you. I've never heard of 3rd gear being a problem on Elements. I've been in a similar situation as yours. I think you have few options:

1) Go back and tell him to make it right. A problem should not 'magically' appear after you replace the clutch. The longer you wait, the harder it will be for you. You have to be assertive, and some people really struggle with this. 2) Find a new mechanic

Also, a bad clutch would not necessarily grind in all gears (from my past experience). I believe on my last vehicle, the pressure plate was the culprit and only caused problems in 1st and 2nd gears.

Not sure if this is related, but I am curious if he resurfaced the flywheel, or used a new one? Ideally, you should use a new one.
 

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Most times if the clutch does not fully release it will cause reverse to grind, since reverse is not a synchronized gear.

Sorry, but will have to agree if it's 3rd grinding it's a worn syncro.
 

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I just had mine fixed to the tune of $2200. My tranny guy had to order a bunch of factory parts because the synchros were only available from Honda. I think the tranny was abused by the previous owners kids.
 

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I am having the exact same issue with my 2006. Clutch went out and it was replaced. Picked it up and now it's crunching a bit when it goes into 3rd. Sometimes a "double clutch" will help, but I was told by my mechanic that the synchro was most likely the issue. Full disclosure, my friend was using my E at the time of the clutch issue and I feel like he may have forced it into third to get it home... No good deed goes unpunished I guess. No issues with any major systems to date and I driven it about 100K since purchase. Looking for another manual trans to swap? Is it worth fixing the existing trans if it is the synchro? Taking it to a Honda specialist for a second opinion.
 

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OH mechanics!!! Maybe he went for a beat run and just speed-shifted 3rd and blew it out!?? LOL. I digress, lets see if this makes sense...

If a gear grinds, what's actually happening is the gear you are in is spinning at a different speed as the next. To get the gear to match the speed, the synchronizer is pressed into the next gear and its speed is matched either faster or slower.

In order for this to happen, the clutch needs to be disengaged so the gear can change speeds and not be driven by the engine. Most likely, 3rd gear synchro was already worn and you didnt realize it until the new clutch changed your pedal throws engagement point.

If the clutch needs depressed more to disengage, then now its taking you longer to prepare the speed of the next spinning gear. So, you try to shift before the clutch is fully released, keeping the next gear engaged so it cant slow down with the synchro.

I see this a lot with drivers when I change clutches, especially in old cars.
Sorry, but human error is always something to consider!!
 
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