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I decided that I would have to buy a new set, so if/when I open up the headlights, if I can't find any problems, or find an unfixable problem, I can replace them while everything is open.
I'm getting more frowny now. My "good" projector headlight isn't always lighting, or will turn on "later" after driving a while. I'm still going to get a new set before I go pulling off the bumper to look for a loose connection, and replacing my bad-spreading light. Basically I am just alerting people to potential problems... If you are on the fence about purchasing...stay there.
 

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A couple months ago I started noticing something funny with my HID lights. they USED TO have a nice hard cutoff line, edged with blue (5000K bulbs). Then the left side started to spread. The cutoff moved up a bit, and the blue vanished and got replaced with larger yellow area. I thought it was the bulb, so I waited a few weeks, got some more bulbs, and STILL had the same problem.....
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Oh no that sucks man. I'm hoping I don't have a problem with that and if you end up taking them apart, you don't either.
I just did mine last weekend and have been loving them.

The only issue I have is one of the ballast doesn't seem to keep my driver's light on as it starts to flicker after warm-up (seems you've been starting to have that issue too). Fortunately (for the time being), I've been able to get around that by turning the lights off, then back up momentary.

For your problem though, if it is mechanical, did you do anything about the projector's moving in the H4 socket?

I noticed when installing mine (I got the G3 kit from that site you linked), I noticed the projector is held in the socket pretty flimsy and decided to do something about it.

Please refer to my attached picture for what I mean:
1. Shows that the projector is only held by bulb bracket (referred w/ red arrow)
2. Shows what happens to the bulb socket when the car experiences movement (referred w/ yellow arrow)
3. Noticed the enclosed area in red
4. To remedy the movement, I added screws to fix the bulb socket down so the projector would not move from harsh gyrations

I'm thinking you problem could be one of two things:
1. Bulb issues (unlikely since you got new ones)
2. Mechanical like you mentioned due to excess movement

I could be totally wrong, but at least you still have good working lights. For what we paid, it's a ton better over stock or drop in HID kits.

Ps. Going through the links installation manuals could be helpful. Page 22ish shows the guy moding his cut off line (which could alter the light beam thus adding the bluish hue)

Here are some pictures of my results:





 

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Oh no that sucks man. I'm hoping I don't have a problem with that and if you end up taking them apart, you don't either.
I just did mine last weekend and have been loving them.
The lights ARE wonderful when they work, and for the price. The install is incredibly simple, and most of those instructions in the linked PDF you found are unnecessary for the E. If anybody is considering this install, don't let the PDF instructions scare you, just talk to someone here who has done it.

The only issue I have is one of the ballast doesn't seem to keep my driver's light on as it starts to flicker after warm-up (seems you've been starting to have that issue too). Fortunately (for the time being), I've been able to get around that by turning the lights off, then back up momentary.
Regarding YOUR issue. That sounds EXACTLY like one of my install problems. Check your grounds, then power connections. Give them a little tug. One of my ground rings pulled right out with no effort. I securely reattached it, and everything worked fine since.

For your problem though, if it is mechanical, did you do anything about the projector's moving in the H4 socket?

I noticed when installing mine (I got the G3 kit from that site you linked), I noticed the projector is held in the socket pretty flimsy and decided to do something about it.

Please refer to my attached picture for what I mean:
1. Shows that the projector is only held by bulb bracket (referred w/ red arrow)
2. Shows what happens to the bulb socket when the car experiences movement (referred w/ yellow arrow)
3. Noticed the enclosed area in red
4. To remedy the movement, I added screws to fix the bulb socket down so the projector would not move from harsh gyrations
Which site did you buy from?

When I installed the G3 set I also noticed it seemed a bit loose, and over bumps I SWORE I could see the light projection bounce. Funny thing, a week later, I stopped noticing it, and didn't even remember until you mentioned it, but I can't see it any more. I'm a little confused by your extra screws because my G3 set doesn't look like your G3 set. So I can't tell what you did See my pic below (ignore adaptor in pic). I think I had a plastic collar with better fitting tabs, and you seem to have a metal one? Do your extra screws go into anything after going through the metal, or are they just in place to stop slight rotation?


I suspect my cutoff blue->yellow issue, is due to the shroud possibly mechanically malfunctioning. However, I still think it would be more effective to have a whole new set handy to install. That will allow me all the testing time I need later, and I won't have to open the headlights twice. Plus, it's an excuse to upgrade.

I'm thinking you problem could be one of two things:
1. Bulb issues (unlikely since you got new ones)
2. Mechanical like you mentioned due to excess movement
As for my on/off light, flicking it on/off, or hi/lo does nothing to remedy the issue, so I think it's another cause. I'm going to try a new bulb first. Then I will pull the bumper and check my connections, like I just recommended you do. If I still have the issue, I'll switch the ballasts.

Ps. Going through the links installation manuals could be helpful. Page 22ish shows the guy moding his cut off line (which could alter the light beam thus adding the bluish hue)
Thanks for the install link. I had NO IDEA that ONE line on the page was clickable. I thought it was just titling an empty instruction section. -haha

I read the install regarding the shroud mod, and it reads more like it's for the pattern. I've actually been eyeing a G5 kit, which has the same shroud design as that mod.
 

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Check your grounds, then power connections. Give them a little tug. One of my ground rings pulled right out with no effort. I securely reattached it, and everything worked fine since.
Good call; I'll re-check my grounds and power connections.

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Which site did you buy from?
It was actually bought off of eBay. I bought from (which turns out to be the G3 kit as I didn't even know they had different versions until you showed us that link).

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I think I had a plastic collar with better fitting tabs, and you seem to have a metal one?
Now that you mention it, it makes complete sense why the picture may look odd to you. Before installing the projector kit, I had a previous H4 HID drop in kit (the ones that scatter light everywhere and blind on-coming traffic). I figured the metal piece was from the factory assembly, but now thinking back, it was probably from my previous kit.

Here is a picture pulled off Amazon for a PIAA H4 bulb replacement:

I thought that metal piece is from the bulb's base plate, but guess it's from my previous kit. I'm sure you could get a set of cheap bulbs though and pull off that plate needed as I pretty much did the same thing, but with the adapter plate I had.

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Do your extra screws go into anything after going through the metal, or are they just in place to stop slight rotation?
To answer the latter part of your question regarding the screws, I had mine go all the way through to the actual Element housing itself, as I used self tapping screws.

Thank you again for pointing out the connections factor in regards to the flickering. Hopefully its something small like that. I suspect though it could be a ballast issue so we'll see.

Good luck!
 

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I'm sure you could get a set of cheap bulbs though and pull off that plate needed as I pretty much did the same thing, but with the adapter plate I had.

Good luck!
So was your shaking light from vertical/horizontal movement, or from rotational movement?

I did some of my own check today on the ON/OFF issue I was having.
-Tested a known good bulb: no light
-Tested off the known good ballast: no light
-Tested a few connections that I can get to without removing the bumper: no light.

It's starting to smell like a bad controller (the wiring box everything runs through).
 

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Thank you all for the compliments. I should have taken more photos when I was doing the retrofits. I will probably try one more try. Third try the charm, right. I want to make the led daylight and signal light brighter. I want them to be as bright as Audi leds. Anybody know how many watts led does Audi use? I've been searching, but no definite answer. Some say 5 watts, but that seems to be way too much electric per led.
 

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Thank you all for the compliments. I should have taken more photos when I was doing the retrofits. I will probably try one more try. Third try the charm, right. I want to make the led daylight and signal light brighter. I want them to be as bright as Audi leds. Anybody know how many watts led does Audi use? I've been searching, but no definite answer. Some say 5 watts, but that seems to be way too much electric per led.
If you eventually do a write-up or DIY instructions (which everybody would love, btw), please post it in a clean thread. This one is too long, and too confusing already, and already deals with multiple versions of 1 product =/

Hope to see something from you eventually. :)
 

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Here is my HID retrofit using www.theretrofitsource.com kit. A little pricey yes, outstanding customer service yes. I e-mailed back and forth with Matt before even starting the project. I consider myself a fair DIY and found this retro fit a lot easier then installing the overhead DVD player. Then again I did not use the existing dome light for a mounting point as my wife and I are both 6 feet and taller. If anyone has any question reference the above product or installing please PM. Two threads showing them.

http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70670

http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70839
 

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So was your shaking light from vertical/horizontal movement, or from rotational movement?
After my little alteration of the install, I didn't have a problem with it moving.
Thinking about it, I probably put the projectors in unconventionally (as I pulled a Tim Taylor and ignored the directions), but it works and I'm happy so far.

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My second take on the HID retrofits.
Wow that is definitely creative!
I spy dual rounds, custom LED turns, and Audi style LED running lamps.

How many hours did you put into that?
 

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I have no idea. I just took it out and work on it whenever I have a chance. I think the headlight was not working for at least a couple of weeks. Whenever I have no other means of transportation and I have to use the Element, I just installed the headlight temporarily with tapes on the front plastic housing so it doesn't drop off. The original glue is still sticky enough to be ok. I just have to make sure to come back home before dark.
 

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Projector headlights for Element on Flea Bay

I did a forum search before posting about these and didn't see anything,I did not realize there were projector headlights avaliable for Elements? I just saw a set on Flea Bay from seller dreamconceptz and they actually do not look too bad.Not too sure on what kind of quality you get but they are also pretty pricey at $459.00 .Sorry can't post a pic since I'm at work but search under 'element led headlight'.
I plan on clearing my headlights one day but didn't want to get involved in doing a projector set up but if the price ever came down to something reasonable I would give these a try to see how they are.
Anyone ever see these before ?

 

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I did a forum search before posting about these and didn't see anything,I did not realize there were projector headlights avaliable for Elements? I just saw a set on Flea Bay from seller dreamconceptz and they actually do not look too bad.Not too sure on what kind of quality you get but they are also pretty pricey at $459.00 .Sorry can't post a pic since I'm at work but search under 'element led headlight'.
I plan on clearing my headlights one day but didn't want to get involved in doing a projector set up but if the price ever came down to something reasonable I would give these a try to see how they are.
Anyone ever see these before ?
Moved your thread into here.
I dont know if anybody has used these specific headlights, but the mod has been done a thousand times
without spending $450. Not using the same exact projector, but with high quality parts and not so high
quality parts.

There is also this thread:

http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61986
 

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I did a forum search before posting about these and didn't see anything,I did not realize there were projector headlights avaliable for Elements? I just saw a set on Flea Bay from seller dreamconceptz and they actually do not look too bad.Not too sure on what kind of quality you get but they are also pretty pricey at $459.00 .Sorry can't post a pic since I'm at work but search under 'element led headlight'.
I plan on clearing my headlights one day but didn't want to get involved in doing a projector set up but if the price ever came down to something reasonable I would give these a try to see how they are.
Anyone ever see these before ?
You should post the link for the people who might want to check them out! ;-)

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Thanks Rolie and Chief - I have been interested in maybe doing projectors for my E but not inclined in taking everything apart.Had never seen 'already done' headlights :)
I would do a link but was not sure of EOC policy :-D
 
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