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Been trying to get a Silver EX 5-Speed 2WD for a month. Like Blood from a rock. Dealer said that combination is statistically rare coming out of Honda's plants. Apparently 80% of us want 4WD, Auto and black. It's just possible that the car dealer may a tap-dancing piece of #@$&.

But it all worked out, because I all but walked out: They offered me a Silver EX 4WD Auto for only a few hundred more than the 2WD 5-Speed. Some 2000 bucks discount. So I took that after checking with their service department that maintenance was no more expensive than with 2WD, and likewise with my insurance carrier for comp, collision. I prefer an auto for my daily driver anyway.

I am kinda surprised at the first-600-mile no-revving, no-exceed-60-mph, no-cruise-control rules. Apparently it has to get it's lobes adjusted :? (VTEC valve timing cams).

I'll have the dealer install security and keyless. I'll install the big armrest and some cargo nets myself.
 

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Where did you hear about a 60 MPH limit for break in? My owners manual specifically mentions to avoid full-throttle starts and rapid acceleration, avoid hard breaking and NOT to change the oil until the recommended time or milage.

However I cannot find any MPH limit for the break in time. I am keeping mine below 65 anyway, but I don't see any specific mention of this.
 

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I broke all the rules! 400 miles and absolutly, totally, madly- goshdarn it, In love with my E !
 

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[quote:047be680ac="jayharley"]Where did you hear about a 60 MPH limit for break in? My owners manual specifically mentions to avoid full-throttle starts and rapid acceleration, avoid hard breaking and NOT to change the oil until the recommended time or milage.

However I cannot find any MPH limit for the break in time. I am keeping mine below 65 anyway, but I don't see any specific mention of this.[/quote:047be680ac]

You are correct. For the first 600 miles, don't drag race the car and for the first 200 miles, just drive and use the brakes normally...first oil change is between 3700 and 4000 miles.
 

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You are correct. For the first 600 miles, don't drag race the car and for the first 200 miles, just drive and use the brakes normally...first oil change is between 3700 and 4000 miles.
Well how odd. My dealer said that for break in, to do exactly what it said in the book - which I think doesn't mention a 200 mile point at all. They also said they would not do an oil change at all if the vehcile is taken in before 5000 miles and that their recommendation was to wait until 7,500 for the first and then 10,000 intervals thereafter unless I drive harshly or regularly carry loads up steep hills.

I called Honda and asked about the 60mph/no cruise control suggestions for the break in period that are commonly repeated here and was told this is not Honda advice to owners, and that they recommend reasonably gentle acceleration and braking during the break in period. Their response to timing of the first oil change was that they 'anticipate owners will be seeking the first oil change between 5,000 and 10,000 miles, depending on driving style and conditions'.
 

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The specific break-in parameters I mentioned were all verbals from the dealer's post-sale hand-off people. You know, the shills that try to sucker you into useless rust and paint treatmets, fabric protectants, etc., so you don't get mad at the salesman for trying to oversell.

She also said that the first oil change was at 7500 miles, when the special "Break-In" formula oil was changed out with it's normal oil. Which leads me to ask if the Auto Trans fluid is also synthetic, or should be.

Obviously, I haven't read my manual yet. I still don't know how to set the clock. The paper floor mats (which bear a perfect drawing of my other car besides the Prelude - a 94 cutlass supreme coupe) are still in place.

If I had to rationalize it, I'd say that keeping the revs low would avoid cruel and unusual abrasion between metal-to-metal mating surfaces while they get better "seated" to one another. After that point, probably, abrasion becomes a constant and the distress factors of heat and elasticity become primary.
 
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