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Hi,

I'm new to the forum. I'm just a novice DIYer. I thought I could do the lower control arm compliance bushing myself, so I attempted it today.

Removed the lower control arm, pressed out/in the bushings, and tried to put back the lower control arm.

My problem is that the bolt on the lower ball joint is messed up now. I used the Harbor Freight ball joint separator, which puts pressure on the bolt. I think the bolt flared out/bent at the point where the cotter pin goes. I can't get the nut on the bolt!

Any advice? Do I need to replace the lower ball joint? That seems a lot more involved than what I needed to do for the compliance bushing.

Thanks.
 

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Update on lower ball joint

For the compliance bushings, I found a guy on craigslist who let me use his hydraulic press for a small fee. First time I ever used a press. It was trickier than I thought, especially since the compliance bushing rim is so thin. The bushing kept tilting when I was trying to press it in.

Anyways, regarding the lower ball joint bolt, in talking to a friend I realized that only the tip was messed up. since the bolt is weaker there because of the cotter pin holes. I ended up filing down the threads off the tip, and filing enough to make it straight. The nut doesn't sit at the tip when it's screwed in, so I think it should be okay.
 

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Anyways, regarding the lower ball joint bolt, in talking to a friend I realized that only the tip was messed up. since the bolt is weaker there because of the cotter pin holes. I ended up filing down the threads off the tip, and filing enough to make it straight. The nut doesn't sit at the tip when it's screwed in, so I think it should be okay.
That will work. Sounds like a good solution.
 

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To save others from this problem in the future:

Honda sells a hardened cap nut (p/n 07AAF-SDAA100) specifically to protect the ball joint threads.




Otherwise, a regular nut can be used:




In addition to being specified in the factory service manual, that item is mentioned in these threads, among others:
Broken Ball Joint
Strut Replacement and Bushings
Front Ball Joints

Ball joint removal tools and techniques are discussed here, here, and in the threads noted above.

As for the compliance bushings, see these helpful threads:
http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56522
http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67034
http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67427
http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65430
http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?p=877677
http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?p=885515
http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?p=878497

Deneteus posted a list of parts here.
 

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To save others from this problem in the future:

Honda sells a hardened cap nut specifically to protect the ball joint threads.

Otherwise, a regular nut can be used.
That's what I've always done. Put the castellated nut on upside down and with a few threads in it you can bang away without damaging the ball joint (I use a BFH). Of course this advise was too late to help the OP.

Although I don't know if it would work for the Element I have used a "pickle fork" with great success. Now people have told me that doing so will ruin the boot but a tip from an old time has worked for me: put a crap load of grease on the fork and it will not damage the boot. Really.
 

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Thanks!

Thanks for the links...a wealth of info. Wish I had read all this before I started the compliance bushing replacement! Next time...

I was able to file down the bolts and install the castle nuts. I'll attach some pics in next post (need 5 posts to attach pics!)
 

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I have used a "pickle fork" with great success. Now people have told me that doing so will ruin the boot but a tip from an old time has worked for me: put a crap load of grease on the fork and it will not damage the boot. Really.
Or just have new boots on hand. They're cheap.
 
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