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I have been trying to find Mobil 1 5W-20 synthetic in my local Walmart (been to 3 different stores) here in San Diego for the past few weeks, they were all out of 5 qt 5w-20s jugs as well as 1 qt bottles...however plenty of 10w-30s. Anyone experiencing the same situation? For now, I am using Castrol Synthetic.....I guess at $22/5qt for the Mobil 1, people are just buying them at mass quantities......
 

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Yep. It's happened to me too. I've just learned to buy whichever 5w-20 full synthetic gallon is the cheapest.
My brother purchased a 5qt jug of Quakerstate Q-Horsepower for $11 last weekend at Walmart. I wouldn't pass up that deal if I saw it...8)
 

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I'm useing the cartrol edge in my E, I used mobile 1 in my montaro by 105000 the engine wasent sounding to good.I think they are living off thier 20+ year old rep, with no improvements,castrol does a lot of r&d ,as does lucas oil products. edge was only 28 for 5 qt. I dont know how much $ I wasted on mobile ! but it was way to much.
 

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Yep, I run into that all the time. 5W-20 is the most popular of the synthetics and Walmart is the cheapest.
On a side note my buddy tests oils, stay away from the Quaker state no matter how cheap it is. It breaks down funny and has a ton of parafin in it.
 

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My brother purchased a 5qt jug of Quakerstate Q-Horsepower for $11 last weekend at Walmart. I wouldn't pass up that deal if I saw it...8)
Quakerstate/Pennzoil :twisted: :-( :?

Bro seriously.........have your bro pull his valve cover after 30k of using this bunk and ask him what he see's. Now if that's on his valve cover what more can be caked on his internals? Why does this oil always leave an orange sludge like film that just continues to get thicker and thicker?
 

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I have used the 5-20 Super synth since my first oil change on the E, good stuff.

At our local Mall-Wart, they were out of the 5-20 for a month..... so I got after the store manager and low and behold they claimed to have 3 left shown in their system. This was a problem because still showing 3 creates a "no order" status. If it always seems like they are out of stock, ASK! Ever since that, it's been there when I need it.

Good luck!
 

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Quakerstate/Pennzoil :twisted: :-( :?

Bro seriously.........have your bro pull his valve cover after 30k of using this bunk and ask him what he see's. Now if that's on his valve cover what more can be caked on his internals? Why does this oil always leave an orange sludge like film that just continues to get thicker and thicker?
Are you serious?? If you believe that then "I pitty da fool"
 

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Yep, I'm serious and until responses come from people who have spent time and years working in a shop seeing what others "may have pitty da fool" I don't really care what any response is. Point blank the oil sucks compared to other leading brands. It leaves a orange sludge inside the engine and eventually begins to flake off like slick 50 teflon does after 50k. The only "fools" who recommend either brand work at autozone or shop there.
 

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I use moble 1 5w20, but I don't get it at Walmart I get it at Advanced Auto, they usuly have a deal bye 5 qrt of moble 1 5w 30 and a moble 1 filter for 25$pls tax. I alwase use moble 1 in ALL my vehicles, but to each thair own.
 

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Yep, I'm serious and until responses come from people who have spent time and years working in a shop seeing what others "may have pitty da fool" I don't really care what any response is. Point blank the oil sucks compared to other leading brands. It leaves a orange sludge inside the engine and eventually begins to flake off like slick 50 teflon does after 50k. The only "fools" who recommend either brand work at autozone or shop there.

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You don't need to pull valve covers to check for varnish. Here are my engine valvetrains on the 3 cars I run synthetic on. I always use the cheapest synthetic and have no brand loyalty. About the only constant is Mobil 1 oil filters and oil change intervals of ~6 months...

Acura TL w/ 47k miles:


JDM Integra Type R motor w/ unknown mileage:



Honda Element w/ 80k miles.
 

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Yep, I'm serious and until responses come from people who have spent time and years working in a shop seeing what others "may have pitty da fool" I don't really care what any response is. Point blank the oil sucks compared to other leading brands. It leaves a orange sludge inside the engine and eventually begins to flake off like slick 50 teflon does after 50k. The only "fools" who recommend either brand work at autozone or shop there.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

How do you come up with such nonsense? Seems that you state things as factual, that are simply your opinion. Kinda like your Dr. Spark Plug article here on this forum on tune ups and what spark plugs are best, yet with nothing to back it up.

It's okay to have an opinion, but when you attempt to convey your opinion as fact is when people will want to throw the BS flag, like I'm throwing now.
 

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How do you come up with such nonsense? Seems that you state things as factual, that are simply your opinion. Kinda like your Dr. Spark Plug article here on this forum on tune ups and what spark plugs are best, yet with nothing to back it up.

It's okay to have an opinion, but when you attempt to convey your opinion as fact is when people will want to throw the BS flag, like I'm throwing now.
Dude, you can hit me up with all the consumer report bs and scientific data you want. The fact is if you worked in a the auto industry results are results. Use whatever oil and whatever spark plug you want. It's you choice. The only thing I have to back my statements up with are real world results. You ask any real gear head (and not some moron who lets a mechanic touch his car) what oil he uses. I can all but guarantee you the names pennzoil and quaker would never come up. There is a reason top mechanics choose certain oils and plugs. Do they have something to back it up with? Yeah.......the fact there car still runs will more miles than the block was designed for.


Yes, I know you don't need to pull your valve cover to examine build up but after 30k using those oils you should just to see what I am referring to. If you don't care that's cool enough since it's your car. Sometimes peering through a hole does not give you the whole picture. I'm just trying to point you in a better direction. Remember though that penn and quaker have no true synthetic oil. What good oil company out there would not have a real synthetic in a bottle or jug marked synthetic? A pretty sad one to say the least.

Knock me all you want guys. In the past 15 years I have never broken down on the side of the road ("knock on wood"), never had an engine failure, never had a tranny issue. I simply use what works best.
 

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How do you come up with such nonsense? Seems that you state things as factual, that are simply your opinion. Kinda like your Dr. Spark Plug article here on this forum on tune ups and what spark plugs are best, yet with nothing to back it up.

It's okay to have an opinion, but when you attempt to convey your opinion as fact is when people will want to throw the BS flag, like I'm throwing now.
Finally found the article from the zex workshop I was at. Maybe this will speak clear and slow enough to tell you the truth about spark plugs...... find the link in the other post. Maybe know you can understand why I preach copper....
 

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I'm not a mechanic or have a great wealth of knowledge on oils, but if a company such as Pennzoil advertises an oil to be full synthetic and even offers extensive technical data on their websites to back it, how can that possibly be a lie?

http://www.pennzoil.com/#/motor-oil/pennzoil-platinum

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_5W-20.asp

http://valvoline.com/pdf/SynPower.pdf

All the numbers are slightly different but are in very close proximity to each other compared to their conventional counterparts..
 

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They meet certain API standards of oil quality and therefor qualify to list the product as a synthetic. There are only 2-3 true synthetics on the market. Mobile1 (which is a good oil), Castrol (pretty sure on this one), and Amzoil. If there are more I would be all ears. You can find many bottles labeled synthetic in any automotive section but all you need to apply this label to your oil is again to meet certain standards. If this has changed in the past 3 years I wouldn't mind being corrected but as of 05-06 I know this was fact.

Sad thing is a lot of supertech oil is true synthetic but you have a 1 in 3 chance of getting it since the distribution scheme of walmart has supertech oil manufactured by the nearest major distro to the region. If I am not mistake the west coast boys and girls have really good oil behind that blue jug at walmart.
 

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I am still uncertain about castrol but it's base conventional and higher end oils are decent. Try reading this article from amzoil on amzoil and mobil1 being true lab made oils while the rest are cheaper reformulated stock oils made into synthetics with additives and special processing. Took me a while to remember who was publishing the articles on real synthetic vs the sort of synthetics. I would imagine the new castrol edge is the first step for castrol in the right direction while it also explains the higher price since it's real.

http://www.technilube.com/faqs_info/synth_diff.php
 

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I have been trying to find Mobil 1 5W-20 synthetic in my local Walmart (been to 3 different stores) here in San Diego for the past few weeks, they were all out of 5 qt 5w-20s jugs as well as 1 qt bottles...however plenty of 10w-30s. Anyone experiencing the same situation? For now, I am using Castrol Synthetic.....I guess at $22/5qt for the Mobil 1, people are just buying them at mass quantities......
I always buy the oil when it is on sale so you don't have to go searching. I just bought Valvoline Synpower 5w 20 for $3.99 a quart. This was time to stock up.

As for the "Synthetic" debate, the Mobil 1, Castrol Syntec, Penzoil Platinum and Valvoline Synpower, among others, are classified as "Synthetics" due to the refining of the petrol base stock. A true man made synthetic does not cost $4 or $5 a quart. That said, I firmly believe these oils are of better quality than the regular Dino oils, IMO. I change mine at 5,000 miles and WILL not let it go beyond that. I will spend $25.00 on a oil change, that I do myself, at that point instead of going another few thousand miles. Its cheap and a nice peace of mind. Also, I only use Honda A01 or Wix filters. Nothing else.

I have not heard anything good about Quaker State in quite some time. Penzoil here and there at times, but never Quaker State. Its Mobil, Castrol or Valvoline for me.
 

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same with costco only 5w-30 =( and I havent seen any mobil 1 5w 20 in any of the sd walmarts either...does target sell oil?
 
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