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Pan-American Overlanding Build

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Hey all! After many years, I’m finally an E owner again and so glad to be back in the club! This is my 3rd Element but the only one I currently own, now. New EOC poster. I’m going to keep this thread updated with my progress along this journey.


I just bought an ’03 EX AWD Manual with basically 200k miles (198k to be exact). The trip is from Alaska to the “bottom of the Earth” in Argentina.. the Arctic to Antarctica (since we will probably take a short cruise to Antarctica from Ushuaia to finish the trip). 40k+ miles over the course of 2-3 years once all is said and done, since we won’t exactly be taking the “main route”.


I’ll be restoring this E to a worthy condition (though it’s already pretty great for its mileage with all the service that has been done in the past, for which there are extensive records), and I will be building it to be our home on wheels for the next few years. Myself, my wife, and our now 5 year old daughter.


For now, I’m looking for some advice on what to look for and address first when it comes to restoring/building my new Element for a hugely adventurous trip. I have a long list from a lot of research, but would like some input before I waste precious time and money on unnecessary procedures, and/or skip things that I should have done.


I picked it up for $6,450, which though slightly out of the Kelly Blue Book range, is well within the market range based on what I see other ones going for, and I feel like I got a pretty good deal, especially for a rare version fitting the exact specs I was after. It is also JUST within my maximum limit for mileage, but I know if I take care of it, this E can easily last another 200k miles or more.


Anyways, I’ll be restoring and building this myself, into a light overlander for my family of 3 to travel the Americas with. Nothing much out of its range of capabilities, but definitely not stock by any means. Probably 50/50 Highway/Softroad travel. I will be doing most of the work myself, barring any walls I hit with my skills and tools selection, though I might have someone working with me who is much more experienced in car restoration, and who might come along on the adventure I’m building this E for. I also might make use of some good DIY shops with mechanics on duty, which should help to keep costs down if I run into anything I can’t do, myself. So I have the time, a budget, google/YouTube/EOC, ordering the Honda Repair Manual now, potentially a savvy partner, and I can follow directions really well, and me and my family are adamant on this trip.


The reason I decided on the Element for my vehicle of choice is it’s longevity, practicality, community, budget-friendliness, versatility, and brand-awareness in my destination countries in case I need help with repairs (though other manufacturers would have been better for this last point, it’s ok for Honda). Musts for my particular Element were the AWD, manual transmission, and first gen for electronic simplicity (another plus when traveling remote areas where shops might not have diagnostic computers). Even though I know the AWD isn’t much for real off-roading, it will fit my purposes better than a 2WD would. An older Toyota 4x4 would have gotten me further out there, but for a much larger price tag, and we’re on a budget. And speaking of other vehicles I was considering, I narrowed it down to 5 (including the Element) that fit near my budget, but the Element came on top in most categories of my pros/cons (the only other one I ended up truly considering was the CR-V, but really only for the cheaper price tag, which would be negated anyways by fitting it for my purposes, which the Element comes closer to in its stock form).


Now that all that’s behind us, this is the list I’ve come up with for what to do first, based on many, many hours of research over the past couple months, and a lifetime of attention to restoration projects and other car-related builds (though limited first-hand experience). I also have an entire build list complete for what I’d like to do before leaving on this trip. But for now, I’m focused on what to do first in order to not damage anything by driving on worn or broken components. And I’m hoping EOC can help add to my list of things to address first with this new-to-me but well-used Element.



First to address:


Buy a Honda Repair Manual for the Element

200k mile service

Catalytic Converter protection
-cover assembly and visible sticker to let thieves know to politely keep it moving

Wear items
-for now, use the tires on it, replacing with optimal all-terrains later
-check all rubber components, replacing anything worn too much
-Replace drivers side CV axle (boot is torn) (this is the only real problem the pre-purchase inspection found, aside from a slight oil leak from around the oil pan)

Any rust
-Address, reassess after getting a complete understanding of the situation, restore or replace (this will be a slight issue as this E has a history in the “rust belt”, but it doesn’t look too bad given that circumstance, and is certainly not beyond repair.. I checked all the notorious problem spots and it’s manageable)

Suspension
-For now, leave alone unless anything costly needs immediate attention, in which case upgrade the whole system now rather than later

Valve Adjustment (no record of it being done)


Pre-Purchase Inspection said this:

Slight leak from oil pan, and a broken CV Axle Boot

It’s a great car and he would buy it. Just need to address that CV axle. He’s helped his friend (who is a millionaire and could have any car) buy 3 Elements now as it’s all the guy will drive :D


Vehicle History Report said this:

Clean title

No major accidents or any report of loss

1 accident in 2013 (I looked into it, and it was addressed by replacing some of the gray plastic cladding.. no further damage)

3rd owner who I bought it from bought it 6 months ago from the original owner’s son, who bought it from his Dad. Seller sold because the manual makes his kids car-sick, and bought an automatic Element instead.


Recent service history before I took ownership:

There’s a lot of records (from the original window sticker to oil changes to every major service). Also, all recalls have been addressed. Notably:

-All mileage-based services performed and documented
-About $15k worth of work done over the last 10 or so years, 100k miles
*clutch slave cylinder replaced after the infamous clutch pedal stuck to floor symptom, at 190k miles
*fuel tank and vtec solenoid replaced at 186k miles after it was found leaking bad due to a rodent that had chewed through a fuel line
*power steering fluid, coolant, brake fluid, and manual transmission fluid all last flushed at 160k
*replaced front rotors at 145k miles
*replaced catalytic converter at 148k miles, along with muffler and tailpipe (mentions due to inefficiencies, but maybe it was cut?)
*1 side motor mount replaced at 160k miles, power torque mount at 190k
*spark plugs replaced at 160k miles along with induction system cleaning
*lots of suspension components replaced in the past 50k miles (rear sway bar links, 1 front sway bar link, both front struts, passenger lower ball joint, and more)
*supposedly the drivers cv axle (though my PPI mentioned the boot is broken… so one of them is probably wrong… I’ll have to inspect further myself, and a service from 190k says that axle boot is tearing and leaking but wasn't replaced)
*knock sensor replaced at 190k miles
*rear brake system replacement at 190k miles
*idle air control valve replaced at 190k miles


Runs super smooth


Eventual work and mods:

Suspension
-No lift (power when needed, fuel-mileage, agility, and comfort more important than extra ground clearance via suspension in my case (though I will look for low-hanging underbody components to address))
-Fully adjustable coilover system (since half of the trip will be highway, half will be softroading, and since I will need a strong system to make up for the added weight on the vehicle)

Brakes
-Somehow beef up the braking system to accommodate for mountain driving and added weight
*maximally cooled system
*larger rotors (slotted and drilled) and calipers
*best brake lines and fluid possible for the purpose

Wheels/Tires
-All-terrain tires on lighter-weight but cheap option for rims, including a full size spare (haven’t decided on best setup here yet, but I’m not opposed to shaving the wheel wells a bit to make room for something slightly larger or offset)
-Nothing too heavy, since I’m looking to optimize torque to the wheels (more on that later)

Underbody protection
-Skid plates front and rear and addressing lowest-hanging components

Engine/Exhaust
-In need of a bit more power to make up for the added weight, specifically low-end torque (especially useful driving up steep mountain roads at high elevation in Peru, where we will spend a considerable amount of time), so considering these mods:
*Major Intake/Exhaust upgrades
*Professional ECU tuning
*Some internals mods (though this depends on what I have left in the budget, as it would be costly since I probably would employ the help of a professional shop for this job; and not sure how necessary or beneficial this is given the durable nature of the K24 and not wanting to mess with that) (I haven’t looked into this option much, yet, to be honest, and will have to do more research on the issue… if anyone has any input here, it would be greatly appreciated)
*NO TURBO OR SUPERCHARGER (I want to keep this motor as durable as possible)

Drivetrain
-Thinking a differential from a CR-V would help with the aggressiveness of the AWD system, as I saw somewhere around EOC (considering doing this)
-Re-gearing of the manual transmission could help getting up steep mountain roads with extra weight on us, so I’m looking into options for this as well (but I believe I’d need more torque along with this to make it useful rather than harmful to my system)
-Upgraded clutch/flywheel for added torque to the wheels (if not, I might at least replace the clutch slave cylinder with something stronger if available anywhere, or at least bring a spare with me, as I don’t want to be stuck with my clutch pedal to the floor (this happened on it about 10k miles ago due to a heavy leak in the slave cylinder which was replaced…. Would this precaution be overkill? Is the replacement good enough for another 50k+ miles even with rough use? Or is the taxing nature of this trip enough to warrant an upgrade or at the least bringing a spare?))

Miscellaneous
-Lighten the weight of the vehicle as much as possible by removing any unnecessary components I can find to make up for all the extra weight our camp rigging will add, and try to keep added weight lower to the ground (for uneven mountain roads) (any input on a weight reduction would be helpful)
-All kinds of camping gear will be coming with us, but that much is more a personal preference and not something anyone could really help me with at this point, though I will be updating this thread as I build the camping rig, and might need suggestions or help later
-Recovery gear
-Exterior Auxiliary Lighting solutions (if you have great ideas, especially budget but bright and durable, let me know!)
-Solar Power system to be added in order to power a fridge, interior lighting, and probably an electric stove. Planning as of now to run everything off of electric and have a small backup propane setup that I only use briefly for light cooking in the case of a downed solar power system


Use Case:

I’ll be able to restore, drive, inspect, and work on this for about a year and a half before taking off on the trip

Trip is roughly 30-40k miles or more depending on route and detours, driving from Alaska to Argentina over a timeframe of about 2-3 years

After the trip, depending on next plans, I might ship the E back to the U.S. or to another continent to travel somewhere else. Otherwise, I’d have to sell it to a new traveller in South America who can continue its legacy.


So enjoy this build/trip thread. My plan is to keep it thoroughly updated. And if you have any positive input, I’d love to hear it!
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Photos from before I got it home last night. It's been raining today so no photos of me with it yet


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I didn't see anything about a starter. Consider a new OEM one or rebuild yours before the trip perhaps. Seems like you are set to have a sweet adventure. Subscribed.
I would find a swing away tire carrier for the back. They make one that fits in the receiver on the back. Full size tire on the back and maybe one top, you will need it.... And a good jack. Sounds like fun.
Pretty good looking underbody, you found a good one to build on at a good price, well done.

If your AC is working get some kind of protection for the front grille and save that AC condensor and Rad
Your to-do list seems fairly well thought out. I’m new to Elements. About ten years ago, I started buying Honda’s for family members that needed a new car, a Civic & Accord for my daughters, and an Odyssey for my wife and I, and now an Element as an extra vehicle for when the Odyssey is busy. Before that, my wife & I had a European luxury car. I‘ve ridden American & British motorcycles for most of my life, so I’m real familiar with maintenance & troubleshooting.
I don’t know of your mechanical skills but if you’re overlanding, I’m guessing you have some. One of the things I see is everyone’s propensity to replace components rather than rebuild. In my younger days as a mechanic (a lifetime ago), I remember rebuilding rather than replacing whole parts. Some here will remember those days. It was common to keep a supply of commonly used seals in the shop, especially for brake jobs. It’s a little harder now to find rebuild parts. For bearings & seals, you talk to a bearing house which will likely have whatever you need, and the quality is better. As far as the starter & alternator, I’ve rebuilt an hard to find starter using a Denso parts catalog, and I’ve rebuilt many a Delco alternator & starter. All brake & clutch seals are available. For non-rebuildable parts, keep a spare near where the original part is used whenever practical. Same idea with electrical components. You likely don’t need 4 coil packs, but one spare would be good. Keep spare sensors available, and/or replace them with new and keep the one you replaced as a spare.
If you haven’t already considered it, upgrade your brake & clutch fluid lines with AN type lines.
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I didn't see anything about a starter. Consider a new OEM one or rebuild yours before the trip perhaps. Seems like you are set to have a sweet adventure. Subscribed.
Yep, I don't know how I overlooked that but absolutely will try to rebuild it before taking off. Otherwise, I'd replace it. Thanks!

I would find a swing away tire carrier for the back. They make one that fits in the receiver on the back. Full size tire on the back and maybe one top, you will need it.... And a good jack. Sounds like fun.
Yea, I'm still throwing around exact configuration ideas, but definitely bringing one full size spare and a tire repair kit. Plan A is to mount the spare to that hitch-mounted carrier (along with some other gear). I might consider a second spare, though will have to seriously weigh this option literally as I'm trying to keep weight down. Alternative to 2 spares is to head back towards the closest town as soon as any issue (even minor) arises in even one tire and order a new spare (we're not really in a rush, so we could wait a bit for it to arrive, or order it to our next destination and stay on the highway near shops until we have a replacement). Which brings up the point of starting with easy-to-source tires which I can find or at least ship easily to my destinations. A good jack system is definitely on my list of recovery gear. I have a long list of those uncompromisables, and wouldn't make the trip without them.

Thanks for the advice!

Pretty good looking underbody, you found a good one to build on at a good price, well done.

If your AC is working get some kind of protection for the front grille and save that AC condensor and Rad
Thanks! I did quite a bit of double checking on that underbody, and this E isn't perfect, but definitely something I'm willing to work with.

Yep, a/c working well! It has a new radiator installed recently (no clue if its oem or not).

Good advice though that I hadn't thought of yet, to protect them better. Thank you for that.


Your to-do list seems fairly well thought out. I’m new to Elements. About ten years ago, I started buying Honda’s for family members that needed a new car, a Civic & Accord for my daughters, and an Odyssey for my wife and I, and now an Element as an extra vehicle for when the Odyssey is busy. Before that, my wife & I had a European luxury car. I‘ve ridden American & British motorcycles for most of my life, so I’m real familiar with maintenance & troubleshooting.
I don’t know of your mechanical skills but if you’re overlanding, I’m guessing you have some. One of the things I see is everyone’s propensity to replace components rather than rebuild. In my younger days as a mechanic (a lifetime ago), I remember rebuilding rather than replacing whole parts. Some here will remember those days. It was common to keep a supply of commonly used seals in the shop, especially for brake jobs. It’s a little harder now to find rebuild parts. For bearings & seals, you talk to a bearing house which will likely have whatever you need, and the quality is better. As far as the starter & alternator, I’ve rebuilt an hard to find starter using a Denso parts catalog, and I’ve rebuilt many a Delco alternator & starter. All brake & clutch seals are available. For non-rebuildable parts, keep a spare near where the original part is used whenever practical. Same idea with electrical components. You likely don’t need 4 coil packs, but one spare would be good. Keep spare sensors available, and/or replace them with new and keep the one you replaced as a spare.
If you haven’t already considered it, upgrade your brake & clutch fluid lines with AN type lines.
I have some, though admittedly not as much as I would like, which is why I will be doing all of the work on the E (mostly) myself, before leaving. I want to A) work on my skills, and B) get to know this particular vehicle. So as per your recommendation, I will definitely consider rebuilding parts whenever possible along this restoration and build process. And yes, bringing spare parts with me too. Thanks for the tips!

I did already order my Honda Service Manual, so that will be coming along with me, definitely, though I'll study it as much as I can before leaving.

That being said, I should highlight the *light aspect of our overlanding trip. Yes, we will be off the beaten path, but no, not too far out there where we couldn't be rescued in emergencies. We'll have some sort of satellite phone should such a situation arise, and maybe another family with us if it works out for them, too. This is more of a family adventure and tour rather than a thrill ride (though it is thrilling!). So we won't be riding tough off-road trails, and we have no big rush. So if it takes longer than expected to complete a segment of the trip, that's fine... we'll be prepared because what I lack in mechanical skills, I make up for in realistic planning and awareness of my situation. We'll be turning around and finding new routes rather than braving and paving new trails. And though that would be fun to pave our own way, I have my wife and our young daughter to think of, so I'm not willing to risk it. We'll be doing this trip as safely as possible.
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I believe this Element is one that I was going to be called about if your purchase fell through(I live in RVA).....Nonetheless, your trip sounds like it could be quite the adventure! My son and I have camped/lived out of my 09 when he was in Scouts, but long weekends were the extent of it, so I certainly salute your ambition. Good luck and I'll be following this thread.
Yep, I don't know how I overlooked that but absolutely will try to rebuild it before taking off. Otherwise, I'd replace it. Thanks!
Eh, that's where manuals are fun. Either roll it down a hill or push it on flat ground if the starter dies, both are easy on little 4 cylinders. 🙂

Best of luck. The element is a great camper for 2, I can't imagine 3. Sounds really crowded.
I believe this Element is one that I was going to be called about if your purchase fell through(I live in RVA).....Nonetheless, your trip sounds like it could be quite the adventure! My son and I have camped/lived out of my 09 when he was in Scouts, but long weekends were the extent of it, so I certainly salute your ambition. Good luck and I'll be following this thread.
Ahh yep, probably the one. That's where I got it! I hate to have taken it from you, but also I love to have gotten it 😜

Yea, I had an '08 that I got new as a graduation present and had big dreams for it. It ended up only ever being used for weekend camping trips, but those were made so much fun by having such an awesome and fitting vehicle for the job. Totaled it in '12 due to strange circumstances and feared that my days of fun with an Element had been destroyed forever. Fast forward to a few months ago when my wife decided this trip was something she was excited for, fast forward to now and it's a reality. I'm super excited. Thanks for following
Eh, that's where manuals are fun. Either roll it down a hill or push it on flat ground if the starter dies, both are easy on little 4 cylinders. 🙂

Best of luck. The element is a great camper for 2, I can't imagine 3. Sounds really crowded.
Haha the more precaution the better but just in case 😉

We usually sleep in the same bed, especially on trips. It can get a bit crowded sometimes, but we usually get used to whatever bed we're sharing wherever it may be. I am throwing around ideas though for an extra space to retreat to for a few days if we feel cramped. Originally I wanted an Ursa Minor pop-top conversion, but they're out of our budget, then was thinking a rooftop tent, but seeing as they're bulky and require more external space to set up, I decided on an inside sleeping setup, at least as default. Might bring a cot for an enclosed awning room for whenever we can set that up. We will see. We'll be camping in it alot throughout the build so we'll have some testing time to see what works before we take off.
Ahh yep, probably the one. That's where I got it! I hate to have taken it from you, but also I love to have gotten it 😜

Yea, I had an '08 that I got new as a graduation present and had big dreams for it. It ended up only ever being used for weekend camping trips, but those were made so much fun by having such an awesome and fitting vehicle for the job. Totaled it in '12 due to strange circumstances and feared that my days of fun with an Element had been destroyed forever. Fast forward to a few months ago when my wife decided this trip was something she was excited for, fast forward to now and it's a reality. I'm super excited. Thanks for following
all good here.....I have an 09 that I've had for 11 years.....just wish it were manual at times. good luck with the build!
Update!

We leave tomorrow for our first leg of the preliminary journey (pre-trip testing and journey). We will be driving from NC to Florida, from Florida to Colorado, and then not sure yet but either back to the East Coast until next warm season or straight to Alaska to begin the journey south this warm season.

Got both front CV axles swapped out for nicer used OEM ones off a non-rusty E. Turns out we have some rust issues (no surprises given past ownership locations, and it's not worse than I thought it could be, but it sure does make work more difficult!). Our front left axle was getting ready to snap and I found a pair off the same vehicle so I just swapped both out for balance and precaution. So far so good! Drives much smoother and I feel much more confident going down the road.

Before that job, I spent a couple weeks getting a differential mount off a salvaged Element to replace our severely rusted one. Took a couple weeks because I kept heading to the yard not fully prepared. Overall, the removal took about 5 hours of actual time, though that was spread across the two weeks (maybe a lot of time for some of you, but I'm a noob). Haven't put it on yet (waiting to possibly swap out the differential itself or maybe change the rear CV axles), but will be bringing on the trip to eventually swap it in.

As far as the sleeping arrangement, we decided to get a pitch tent as our auxiliary setup for whenever we have time and space to set it up, or if we get tired of sleeping in the E itself. Also got some important camping gear (solar generator (to be accompanied by solar panels later), water storage, lantern, etc).

In Florida, I will be changing the oil before the cross-country drive, and I will also be installing an Aerogenics cat guard.

In Colorado, I plan to update the suspension and brakes, add roof racks and rooftop storage, and build out the interior sleeping setup (for now we're on an air mattress with the seats still installed, but we do have the tent). We'll also be adding an e-cooler there.

And, we named our Element 'Spicy' since we love spicy food and he's the color of red chili powder (yes, him... my daughter decided that he's a boy).

Anyways, I'll check in with this thread again once in Colorado. Sorry no pictures, but I did get a lot of video of the CV axle job as well as the salvage picking. If interested, message me for YouTube links... would rather not post them here just because that's not the point of this thread.

Stay tuned!
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