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thanks, I was a skeptic when buying those rims, especially since I read comments on other forums where ppl didn't really like them (though on different cars), but for the price I couldn't find anything else I'd like. And I think they fit well. Perhaps it would look better if they were the same color as the SC 18" wheels, but black/silver fits too.

Cleaning? It's a rugged vehicle for rugged terrain :) Though in Northern NJ the only real dirt we have to worry about is after it snows.
Only had these wheels for 2 weeks on, so really no history of maintenance yet.
 

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Rims look good, but Im confused. Why did you get different offsets???
The rims are 8" wide all around and you have the same size tire all around.
Why would you get the rear rims with a 5mm different offset??
 

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Rims look good, but Im confused. Why did you get different offsets???
The rims are 8" wide all around and you have the same size tire all around.
Why would you get the rear rims with a 5mm different offset??
yes, good question. But do you feel like reading my below answer now? ... lol

Initially I bought a set of +40 offset all around (few months ago). I purchased the tires in a local tire shop (cheapest deal I found with balancing, even better than a good deal I found on ebay then). I drove on these wheels a bit and noticed the front is extremely bouncy. I actually made another thread about this problem - ended up later replacing all struts because the front right was shot. At the same time I noticed bouncing, I also noticed slight vibration on highway. It was probably the bad strut, but at that time I wanted to eliminate any problems with wheel balance, since I just had them done.

So I took the wheels back to the same shop, and... here comes the nightmare...
One older guy must've somehow tied the rim too tight when balancing, because he made a circular scratch on the black paint, in the radius where the lug nuts are. This was very visible, and after the battle with the shop and considering all my options, I decided not to have it repainted because it would never look exactly the same (these were brand new rims). I started looking for a new replacement, and it turns out this was the last set with offset +40 that was available anywhere.

Unbelievable, I know, these wheels are still posted on some websites, but I spent the whole day calling every shop I found on the net (probably over 20) that showed these wheels and nobody even had a single one. I called the manufacturer and they said they discontinued this offset and there is none available anywhere. The guy even told me to please stop calling all the shops because each shop then calls them to ask about, and he was sick getting the same calls asking if they have these rims :) They still carry the +35 offset, though. So I decided to buy 2 wheels with +35, and if I need to rotate wheels in the future, I'll have to add 5mm spacers in the back for the +40 wheels. If that becomes a problem related to rubbing, I still have the other 2 +40 rims. I can always get that 1 rim repainted and use all +40 rims.

When I drove with those +40 wheels for 2 weeks few months ago, there was no rubbing in front, and rear only slightly rubbed at high bounce with car loaded, but that was on old struts. These new seem a little stiffer, at least for now. Now with +35 the rear wheels are 5mm out more than those I drove with initially, but I don't think the rubbing will be any different than it was before (I haven't had time to test it on highway yet, but on local roads there's no rubbing at all). I'm more concerned what will happen after I rotate the wheels down the road and will then have the fronts pushed out 5mm.

So for now it's a slightly staggered setup.
 

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Those wheels look great - I have seen some on Ebay and was wondering how they would look on an Element especially the black wheels.Goes well with your color.
Thanks for posting the pics !
 

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yes, good question. But do you feel like reading my below answer now? ... lol
Well I read that entire post, and I see your issue. I would have made the shop
buy all 4 rims in +35 and let them keep the set of +40. Not your fault they
screwed them up. You bought a set of brand new rims, so you should get a set
of brand new rims. You should try running a 5mm spacer on your fronts now. I
know it will be hard to find, but find a set that are hub centric. If I remember
correctly, the hub on the E is only 5 or 6 mm thick. The set I have are universal,
and they are not hub centric. I use them for measuring only, I have never run
them on the E. But I remember thinking I would need hub centric ones if I were
ever going to run them. Keep us posted on how things go.
 

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Well I read that entire post, and I see your issue. I would have made the shop
buy all 4 rims in +35 and let them keep the set of +40. Not your fault they
screwed them up. You bought a set of brand new rims, so you should get a set
of brand new rims. You should try running a 5mm spacer on your fronts now. I
know it will be hard to find, but find a set that are hub centric. If I remember
correctly, the hub on the E is only 5 or 6 mm thick. The set I have are universal,
and they are not hub centric. I use them for measuring only, I have never run
them on the E. But I remember thinking I would need hub centric ones if I were
ever going to run them. Keep us posted on how things go.
Well, the shop only paid for one new rim and remounted and re-balanced the 2 new rims for free. Even this was a week-long battle. You're looking for best deals, you're always running a risk of finding substandard service...
Anyway, I wanted to keep the +40 on front because I have a feeling +35 may be causing an issue. If that happens, I just won't rotate wheels, I guess... (not sure yet).
Yes, I agree I need hubcentric spacers later on after rotation (if front has no problems) and yes, it'll probably be hard to find 5mm hubcentric ones. I remember in the past when I was getting Ichiba 15mm ones for my TSX, I noticed that nobody had any thin hubcentric spacers, just universal.
 

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Just an FYI, I am running 15mm spacers up front to clear my BBK. I am lowered
on Ksports, and I have NO rubbing issues. Since you are not lowered, the extra
5mm will be no big deal at all!!!! Im on the 18" SC rims so that makes my offset
a +30. You will be just fine. If you want to test it out, just move your rears up
front and see how they do. 5mm is usually not that big a deal.
 

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great! good to know :) thanks
how's the rear, though?
wait, is your wheel size ratio the same as OEM though? Mine's higher by 10.1mm

 

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:) thanks.
It pales comparing to yours, though.
I love how you made yours, especially the pain job :thumbsup:
Thank you, very much appreciated!

Chief
 

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great! good to know :) thanks
how's the rear, though?
wait, is your wheel size ratio the same as OEM though? Mine's higher by 10.1mm
Well, I always use the SC tire size. 225/55 R18 X 7 +45. They are basically
the same size as the 16s. The bigger tire on your E wont make that big a
difference. I really like that tire size calculator you use.
 

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that sounds good.
thanks
Can you link your pictures so I can see what you have? I can't find any pictures of your E.
 

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Can you link your pictures so I can see what you have?
I can't find any pictures of your E.
I dont have any good pix of how the rims sit. When I take some, I will post
them up. If you go to the Rotora BBK thread, there are some in there of my E.
 
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