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Replacing Element Battery with 24F

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There a few great threads on here about upgrading the battery on Elements to higher capacity:


I just replaced the stock 51R with the huge 24F with great success. This is almost a no-brainer swap, and no real additional work needed to do it. It is a tight fit, but not difficult to get in place. Anything larger would not fit. The upgraded battery is similar cost to the factory one too. I'm just recording my notes here for others who may want to do the same.

You will need a new battery strap that fits, and longer J bolts, but our auto parts store had those in-stock too. The only thing you need to do besides removing the plastic trays is to bend the metal on the bottom of the battery plate out a little bit, because the 24F fits almost exactly into the holder, leaving no room to loop the "J" into the hole. I've added some pictures here too:


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Yes, that's a nice upgrade.

But heads up- I used that rubber hold down on my daughter's Element, and a year later opened the hood and it had broken in half, and the battery was unrestrained.

I added the fiberglass angle you see in the photo here.

It's kind of a pain, but I'd also recommend flipping the hold down bolts so the protruding ends are facing away from the battery.

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Thanks @centerpunch, great tips! I was a little worried about the rubber strap too. Maybe I'll find something like your nice fiberglass bar to make sure it is secure.
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I live in Florida, so see no need to move from the OEM Battery but if I did...

I would use this to do it with this.

Hi,
I live in Florida, so see no need to move from the OEM Battery but if I did...

I would use this to do it with this.

A little info: Many people don't realize that HOT WEATHER is Harder on a battery than Cold 🥶 Weather
A little info: Many people don't realize that HOT WEATHER is Harder on a battery than Cold 🥶 Weather
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So it is harder to start a car in 90 degree weather, than 0 degree weather?

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Heat does the damage, but the cold checks how much damage is done.
The way that I always understood it, is that cold temperature reduces the available amperage of a battery, while hot temperature does the long term damage.
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So it is harder to start a car in 90 degree weather, than 0 degree weather?

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Actually it can easily be harder to start a car in 90° weather than zero ° because if the outside is 90° it much hotter under the hood of the car than 90°. The internal chemistry of the battery is affected so the battery cannot generate as much electricity under the high heat conditions. In zero° the battery can lose 60 % of it's strength, but the remaining 40% can be more than enough electricity for the cold cranking amps to turn the battery over
I’m not so sure I buy the idea that hotter climates are harder on batteries than colder climates.

Yes, I’ve been on-line and read many of the analyses of this assertion, but I think there are other factors that explain why batteries in hotter climates fail to a greater degree than in colder climates.

In my mind most of this comes down to poor maintenance.

Traditional lead-acid batteries are filled with an acid solution which is diluted with water. When you examine a battery that has not been maintained you notice that the liquid level needs to be replenished. This is because, over time, the natural chemical processes of the battery and evaporation causes the water portion of the solution to slowly disappear.

MORE THAN NINETY-NINE PECENT of car owners NEVER maintain their batteries and, as such, their battery are damaged.

Chemical reactions and evaporation occur faster at higher temperatures, so the loss of water from batteries occurs faster in hotter climates. Which means that batteries in hotter climates need to be maintained to a higher degree than batteries in colder climates. We all know this just does NOT happen.

I have the original battery from a 2004 Volvo that is still performing perfectly. I no longer have the car but keep the battery on a battery tender and maintain it occasionally. A friend of mine who has a VW Passat whose battery died, recently borrowed the battery until he could schedule a replacement. He used the battery for several months with no problems.

I believe that most of the evidence for hotter climate batteries failing to a greater degree is anecdotal. In other words if you do a statistical analysis of historical data on battery life you will see that batteries in hotter climates do fail to a greater degree. But that is not because the heat. It is because of the lack of the required increase of maintenance.

The logic for the harder-on-batteries assertion is kind of like the argument that all drug addicts drank milk when they were young, so drinking milk must cause people to become drug addicts. Likewise logic says that more batteries fail in hotter climates so hotter climates must cause batteries to fail.

I don’t buy it.
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