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Agreed - once the entire assembly is out of the car - the hard part is over and to me it's worth the cost savings to just swap the motor.

I would recommend spraying a bit of WD40 and letting it sit for a second before attempting to unscrew the tiny phillips head screws holding the fan blade and motor in. (3 screws for each)

I ended up having a bear of a time with one of the screws that stripped as I was attempting to disassemble. I ended up having to notch it with a dremel cutoff wheel and use a flatblade on it.
I was just taking another gander at it. Both motors look fairly corroded. WD40 is fine but I don't want it to get much fancier than that. ;)
 

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One thing I might be too concerned about. I noticed the guy who posted the pics did a radiator flush while he was at it. I've never done that before. Is that necessary or is there any danger in having that radiator hose?
 

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One thing I might be too concerned about. I noticed the guy who posted the pics did a radiator flush while he was at it. I've never done that before. Is that necessary or is there any danger in having that radiator hose?
to flush the radiator you have to put everything back together anyway..work on the fans first,,,you can always do a flush when your done or make that your next project,,i just did mine a few months ago,,,very simple job,,just make sure you use oem honda fluid,,its blue..your need 2 gallons,,there about $15 a gallon..
 

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I just ordered the Dorman, whole fan. They had it in stock and I don't want to get the thing out and realize I can't turn the screws on the motor. I would've liked to have gottn the other fan but I'll do that when money isn't so tight.
 

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Hoping for some emergency advice. I got the assembly out but it seems that, on the outgoing unit, I snapped off a plug type thing on the bottom, right hand side of the unit, looking at the car from the front. I was able to reach in and seperate the male from the female but I don't really see any electrical connection for this to plug into. I mean, I can obviously connect the male to the female and I see the electric going to the car but I don't see a connection coming into the unit from that area. I have the other 2 connections. As it is right now I'm not even sure how to get the combined male/female connection onto the unit. Hope I'm making sense. Any help is appreciated.
 

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If i'm reading it right - it sounds like the connector that attaches the wires to the fan unit broke...which is common for this repair. It's the hardest part of the entire job.

Zip-tie it back in place (or to a different location) perhaps?
As long as you didn't yank any of the wires out in the process you'll be good.
 

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If i'm reading it right - it sounds like the connector that attaches the wires to the fan unit broke...which is common for this repair. It's the hardest part of the entire job.

Zip-tie it back in place (or to a different location) perhaps?
As long as you didn't yank any of the wires out in the process you'll be good.
So there's the electric that can easily be plugged into the top of the assembly. If I'm not mistaken, and I may be, there are wires attached to the bottom of the assembly. There is a male/female connector and it seems to be attached to the bottom of the assembly via a white wire clip. I did pull one side out of, I think, the female connector but it seems to go back in easily enough. All that said, I thought I had it, reconnected everything and still no AC and that fan isn't running so clearly, I did something wrong. Might pull it apart again for one more stab.:-(
 

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Insult to injury, the hood will not latch properly now. I haven't put that black plastic sgroud back on but don't see how that would effect it. No idea why it won't latch.
 

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Hey Glorth -
Take a look at post #10 in this thread:

AC Fan Motor Bottom Clip

It doesn't sound like that particular connection is your issue...


As for the hood latching correctly - it appears that you didn't line the latch back up in the same spot that it was before. Try loosening the latch bolts and realligning it. A tip that I wish I could/would have shared with you is: When you remove the hood latch - first etch or sharpie a line on the body where the latch is to be reinstalled. It makes the reinstall easier. Sorry about that one.
 

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Hey Glorth -
Take a look at post #10 in this thread:

AC Fan Motor Bottom Clip

It doesn't sound like that particular connection is your issue...


As for the hood latching correctly - it appears that you didn't line the latch back up in the same spot that it was before. Try loosening the latch bolts and realligning it. A tip that I wish I could/would have shared with you is: When you remove the hood latch - first etch or sharpie a line on the body where the latch is to be reinstalled. It makes the reinstall easier. Sorry about that one.
Not your fault at all brother man. You guys have already been so much help. Yes, it appears that the wire in question is not my issue (though I hope it doesn't mess anything else up). I just don't know what the issue could be. The shop said my condenser fan motor was bad which made a fuse blow. I looked in the owner's manual and replaced the correct fuse. Obviously replaced the fan and the motor. No joy. I get airflow in the cabin but it's not cold and that fan is not turning.
 

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Update, lined up the hood latch and closes properly now. Also checked fuse under the dash mentioned in the linked thread and it was fine. Hopefully I find something else to try or it's taking it back to the shop or maybe the dealer. You know how much they like it when you try doing work for yourself to save some $.
 

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Yes, check to see that your AC Condenser fan is indeed working. Follow the steps in post #1 on this thread. I want to rule out a bad fan motor.
Once you've connected the wires (fused wires prefered) from the battery to the fan itself - the fan should spin.
What you're doing there is bypassing all the relays, switches, fuses etc. and you'll know that the fan motor isn't your issue and can move on to another possibility.
If you have a volt meter - that would be helpful here as well - you can unplug the connection at the fan motor (that isn't spinning) to see if you're getting a 12v reading there. If you are getting 12v (and your fan motor is working) - you could suspect bad connection to the fan. You basically just need to work your way back from what IS working. Fan works....check....getting 12v at the connection....check.....etc etc

Making sense?
 

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We are having the exact same symptoms as the person that started this thread! I'm glad we found this site b/c I was sure it was the thermostat and we were going to have to have a mechanic replace it for us. I guess it could still be the thermostat but it sounds more like the fans.

We're going to test it out today. Anyone have a manual that can give us steps for removing and replacing the fans/motors?
 

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SO. I have a question about the cooling fans. I just got a used E and have been going through fixing the little things wrong with it and one happens to be overheating due to the fans not going on. I unplugged both wiring harnesses (one from each fan ) to test them with the battery. I came to the conclusion that the passenger side ( condensor fan) was dead but the other ( cooling fan) on the drivers side did work. Now here is the question!!! Should the drivers side fan ( non condensor fan) still come on when turning the a/c on if the other fan is dead? I have ordered the condensor fan on Amazon and am hoping when I hook it up they will both operate :)
 

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Should the drivers side fan ( non condensor fan) still come on when turning the a/c on if the other fan is dead?
I believe so.

You might have two issues...

One dead fan, and a bad sensor/relay.

I don't have a wiring diagram for your year, so can't really advise further since I don't know how similar the 08 is to yours.
 

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Hey guys, I have 3 E's in the family 2/2008's and a 2003. I was checking my sons Air for cool air and noticed the condensing fan had not come on at idle with the air on. I switched off and on, the regular radiator fan comes on when the air is turned on. I checked for power at the plug at that time. Yes I had power so the fan was bad. I also checked the other two E's for the same function. They were all nonfunctional. Wow this seems like a scam, so how long are they expected to last. Maybe they should have a light on the dash when they fail. I ordered 3 of them on Amazon for less than $45 ea. that say they are lifetime warranted. I imagine the Honda ones are also but cost at least $200 more ea. One of my 2008's has less than 80k miles no way that should be bad already.
 

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I just looked up my maintenance records. On a 03 Element, the OE radiator fan went out at 175k and the AC condenser fan went out at 210k. The radiator fan motor was replaced with OE Honda and is still going at 342k. The AC condenser fan was replaced with aftermarket and just died at 340k. I also have an 03 CRV. Both OE fans went out at 280k (well, lets say I noticed it after both fans went out, could have been running on one fan for a while), both replaced with aftermarket, currently at 303k. My wife drives the Element, she has the AC turned on 100% of the time. I drive the CRV, and only turn it on when it’s hot.
 
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