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you can put the windows down +/- 3.5 to 4 inches. they are some of the widest and strongest ventshades i've seen. my father saw them last wknd...and said, "things are heavy duty, did honda make them?" lol
i have pics if you want them, just need your email address.

the shades took abtou 15 minutes to put on.
 
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