Today we traded in our new E, 2600 miles on her, for a new 09 Toyota RAV4. After spending days and days at the dealership, Honda of Decatur, trying to get all of the problems on our new E fixed, we have given up. I love Honda Elements, just not the one we ended up buying. I miss her already, but man was she a lemon. I know that Toyota builds lemons too, but maybe the new RAV4 wont be one of them. I had more problems with the E in less than two months than I have had on my last two new cars in ten years. I'm not putting down Elements, my wife and I love them! We just decided to cut the E loose and start again with a Toyota this time. Time will tell.