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There has got to be something wrong on cargo weight unless it is just talking about the weight on the back axle. because me 270lbs and three friends all togather equalling about 800lbs rode about 200 miles with minimal sag and slow start in get this! a '91 Honda Civic. It's probably designed for small little japanese commuters and yet from what's been described it does better than the Element. Please Explain.
 

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there is a lot of talk on this site about the weight, run a search.

I talk to honda canada and their line is that the 650 max weight does include weight. Meaning the max weight is 650 minus the weight of the fuel?????????????

But if you minus the curb weight from the GVW you come up with 850. that would be the max weight it can carry. Curb weight include fuel (I think?)

I have had 900lbs for short hauls and had no trouble.
 
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