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No way it's the new E. We have a person or two here that are in contact with some Honda folks. Those people here have stated that a redesign will be 2009. This thing is too extreme of a redesign for the E. My guess is the new segment SUV that Honda has been talking about, or something not even planned for us but for the Japanese market to fill any "hole" that might exist when they yanked the E from that market.
God I hope not.... Like I said when I first joined the EOC: When the redisign does happen I don't want it to be an extreme make-over and completely kill the image of the Element that we have come to know and love. Yes I can see some similarities to the Element in the mystery vehicle, but lately I've seen hints of the E's "boxyness" in the newest models of SUVs.... Which I don't understand why people single out the Element for this trait almost all SUVs are adopting... But I digress. Honestly I don't believe it is a revamp of the Element for a couple reasons. 1) Elements just got a trim upgrade to SC for '07, I seriously doubt a completely new and redesigned Element would so soon follow.
2) The redesign was, and still as far as I know is, scheduled for the '09 model. I doubt they would have THAT model driving around in LA 2 years before its release date.
2) The redesign was, and still as far as I know is, scheduled for the '09 model. I doubt they would have THAT model driving around in LA 2 years before its release date.
looks like a ford. remember a while back they had a concept vehicle that looked like the e???
It definitely has a Honda feel to it... but who knows. Remember that Honda is said to be coming out with a new SUV to go between the Pilot and CRV, and I am thinking this could be the design.
Also, the production year for the redesigned Element is 2009, isn't it? So would a production model be out this early? I would think a concpet of the redesigned Element would come out on the car show circuits long before we see a possible redesign on the streets in production.
Also, the production year for the redesigned Element is 2009, isn't it? So would a production model be out this early? I would think a concpet of the redesigned Element would come out on the car show circuits long before we see a possible redesign on the streets in production.
the grille looks like an f-150, and the back end screams volvo. it is too low and wide to be a honda, imho.
Agreed, although I can see the Element styling cues they were mentioning. How boring a vehicle, though. It would look like sh!t in orange.JPH102900 said:
I have seen a concept drawing of this vehicle before. In fact, this looks like one of the entrants, from paper to concept vehicle, from the 2004 or 2005 Los Angeles Auto Show-Design Challenge, Ultimate LA Car. This looks like the Ford entry. That oval on the front hood screams Ford to me. However, Toyota has that shape oval also.
As a guy who's owned far more Fords than any other Detroit brand, let me be the first to say this lump of bread dough looks like a Ford.
Whatever it is, I DO NOT want it to be the next Element! Too much minivan/Toyota Highlander to it, along with Ford cues, for my taste. Depending on the overall redesign, I could probably live with the loss of the suicide doors (wouldn't WANT that, but it could well happen). I would sure hate to lose the cube-y, sorta-dorkyness of this gen though.
If I wanted something like everything else, I really would have gotten something like everything else. If they leave me behind with the redesign, I'll have to look real hard at the xB replacement or the Nissan Cube that's coming. Failing that, it would have to be the RDX. Or the Mazda3. Or the Volvo hatch due next year. Or the Mini. Or....
---- Mark
If I wanted something like everything else, I really would have gotten something like everything else. If they leave me behind with the redesign, I'll have to look real hard at the xB replacement or the Nissan Cube that's coming. Failing that, it would have to be the RDX. Or the Mazda3. Or the Volvo hatch due next year. Or the Mini. Or....
---- Mark
Yuck!
What is that huge wide rocker panel trim lookin thing along the lower sides? And it goes up and across the lower hatch for some unknown reason? And the indented seam down the side? And those rear lights running clear up to the roof....you almost expect them to flash in a relay pattern up and down like a UFO. This looks like something that would have been real hip and mod --- in 1976. Sort of a "mod squad-esque" Ford Econoline VAN transformed into an SUV. All it lacks for the true "look" is some louvers over the rear windows and the Charlie's Angels white & blue or red & black Mustang Cobra color scheme (and I should know, I owned one).
I see no hints of the Element here except the quasi-rectangle shape and maybe the rear windows. It's just too BLAH to be the next gen E if you ask me...and knowing Honda, the prototype would be a color, not cream. Honda's idea of bland seems to be grey or silver, not off white. And finally, this thing has ZERO style, No suicide doors, no sunroof, no color, no contrast, no trim to speak of - it's just like everything else on the road - what's to differentiate it from a a car-pool mom's CRV? The whole idea of the E was to make it different and make it stand out...I don't see Honda throwing that out the window for basically a rather lumpy plain version of a CRV. That rear end has just a horrible line to it with that lumpy "bar" across it and those bad "Flash Gordon Faux spaceship" looking lights on there. It goes straight from "goober" to galaxy quest" between the front bumper and the back.
I am so wondering about this new trend of breaking up every possible "line" in cars with big boxy wide trims and square cut "picket fence" moldings and fender trims and bumper guards stuck on everywhere like an afterthought. Oh, I guess smooth and sleek is so "yesterday" - people want the Tonka Truck or Fischer Price Bus, look now. The E may be boxy, but it has great lines and it flows from front to back in a smooth, cohesive way. PLEASE Honda, don't start stickin "shoebox under the blanket" lumps all over our boxy-enough E's or making it look like a mini, econo version of the CRV.
I don't know WHAT that prototype is, but it doesn't matter because I would never buy one. And THAT being an E would be like givin us a lump of bland, taseless, pasty bread dough instead of our fun, shiny, hot electric toaster.
What is that huge wide rocker panel trim lookin thing along the lower sides? And it goes up and across the lower hatch for some unknown reason? And the indented seam down the side? And those rear lights running clear up to the roof....you almost expect them to flash in a relay pattern up and down like a UFO. This looks like something that would have been real hip and mod --- in 1976. Sort of a "mod squad-esque" Ford Econoline VAN transformed into an SUV. All it lacks for the true "look" is some louvers over the rear windows and the Charlie's Angels white & blue or red & black Mustang Cobra color scheme (and I should know, I owned one).
I see no hints of the Element here except the quasi-rectangle shape and maybe the rear windows. It's just too BLAH to be the next gen E if you ask me...and knowing Honda, the prototype would be a color, not cream. Honda's idea of bland seems to be grey or silver, not off white. And finally, this thing has ZERO style, No suicide doors, no sunroof, no color, no contrast, no trim to speak of - it's just like everything else on the road - what's to differentiate it from a a car-pool mom's CRV? The whole idea of the E was to make it different and make it stand out...I don't see Honda throwing that out the window for basically a rather lumpy plain version of a CRV. That rear end has just a horrible line to it with that lumpy "bar" across it and those bad "Flash Gordon Faux spaceship" looking lights on there. It goes straight from "goober" to galaxy quest" between the front bumper and the back.
I am so wondering about this new trend of breaking up every possible "line" in cars with big boxy wide trims and square cut "picket fence" moldings and fender trims and bumper guards stuck on everywhere like an afterthought. Oh, I guess smooth and sleek is so "yesterday" - people want the Tonka Truck or Fischer Price Bus, look now. The E may be boxy, but it has great lines and it flows from front to back in a smooth, cohesive way. PLEASE Honda, don't start stickin "shoebox under the blanket" lumps all over our boxy-enough E's or making it look like a mini, econo version of the CRV.
I don't know WHAT that prototype is, but it doesn't matter because I would never buy one. And THAT being an E would be like givin us a lump of bland, taseless, pasty bread dough instead of our fun, shiny, hot electric toaster.
I don't think it is domestic.....steering wheel on the wrong side....may Subaru since they don't have anything to compete with a mini-van.
The basic shape, front end, headlights, stance, lower ride, and smaller more compact height look rather Scion xB to me.
Notice how people are taller than the vehicle. That is rather Scion, not E. Also note the roundish or oval shaped spot for company logo. That also suggests Scion or ford.
I hope it is not the E. If it is it shrunk.
Maybe it is a Japan only model, where smaller is better (remember that the Element was too BIG for that market).
Notice how people are taller than the vehicle. That is rather Scion, not E. Also note the roundish or oval shaped spot for company logo. That also suggests Scion or ford.
I hope it is not the E. If it is it shrunk.
Maybe it is a Japan only model, where smaller is better (remember that the Element was too BIG for that market).
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