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Hi guys just installed 1.5" front and 1" rear aerogenics spacers on my wifes 2003 element with 235/70/16 Falken wildpeaks and it feels solid !
 

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Back isn’t 2:1, but it would be higher than 2”

My math leads me to believe it’s 1.6:1 (based on sparmans 2” lift experience)

When CSS asked me to measure my rear suspension geometry (very roughly) they said it was 3:2

Lastly, when I spaced the rear subframe by 1.75” the rear end seemed to “settle” a bit. This leads me to believe that the rear lift ratio isn’t linear.

I think maybe:

First 1” rear block might be 1.25-1.5” lift
Second inch might add 1.75-2.25”
Third may be closer to 3:1.

I honestly don’t know enough about suspension geometry to know if that’s true. If you think about angles it’s more likely an S curve than a J curve. Maybe it’s linear.

Here’s photos of the rear springs before and after I spaced the subframe (which I didn’t think would change ride height.)

+2.33” in spring length (same as a spacer, but it squishes) front is 2” blocks.

One with the moto is after the 1.75” subframe spacing.
Cursh, apologies for going off topic but those wheels are rad. Reminds me of old school rally cross. What are they?
 
Element looks great! This is the exact tire/lift set up I want to do. Did you need anything else except the lift spacers? Camber bolts, etc? Was it a straight bolt on + normal alignment process?
 
You will need camber bolts and adjustable rear upper control arms, plus the spacers. The top hats will have to be rotated slightly to get the top spacers studs to align with the body, then they just bolt up. The alignment process should be straightforward after that.
 
Aerogenics 1.5 Front / 1" Rear

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1.5 Front / 1" Rear



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"This size lift doesn’t require a front camber bolt / rear camber kit, however, some people are meticulous and want their camber to be perfect. Camber bolts are ~$10 each on rock auto and the rear camber arm is ~$40. I could link you to those items if you have trouble finding them."

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Here are a few pics after I was able to get the 2" lift spacers (front & back) installed with BC Racing Coilovers. Only issue is hearing a busted motor mount rattle around up front, and the rear control arms bottoming out over certain bumps. Homer The Hondas' new Adjustable rear control arms should be here in the next few days.

Already put 700 miles on this setup in the windy hills in NorCal and love it so far. Handling is completely different now, but I think that's more the new BFG K02's doing their job. Hoping that replacing the motor mounts will quiet the only rattle I have heard since the install.

I do get a slight rub with the wheel turned to the max, but a little time in the wheel well and I think I can get things to play nice down there. If only Aerogenics made subframe spacers to give us a little more travel in the rear ;)

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Aerogenics Lift

Report on Aerogenics Lift Kit

2010 Element eCamper, 26k miles

1.5" front Aerogenics
1" rear Aerogenics
Stock Rims
Falken 235 70/16
3/4" bolt on solid aluminum rim spacers

I wanted a mild lift to keep wear on the CVs low and dependability high. Potential Mexico extended trips.

I wanted the larger than stock AT tires to add about an an additional 1" lift and mild/medium sand/mud/snow capability.

I had my mechanic do the work - they have lift experience on many vehicles- $700 labor.

The one surprise was that the tires on the stock rims would not work without the spacers. I had not read any info about that anywhere even though many show pics of those tires on stock rims. It was a little glitch but worked out ok with the mild 3/4" bolt on spacers.

I measured the car height before the lift and after. It gained a +3" total lift. That seemed odd given the tire was about +1" and the lift was 1.5"+ max. Ended up being a bit higher than anticipated and that is good. Drives well, no noticeable difference and the road noise of the tires is fairly low. Spacing between the inside of the tire and the struts is the same as before due to the 3/4" spacer. No rubbing on max turns. No anticipated rubbing in med hard turn with tire roll. I am happy with the results.
 
I'm looking into this lift spacing kit as well. the 1.5/1 kit for 2010 EX 2WD, I camp a lot and receiving my Fifth Element Camping system tomorrow. Prior to this I added a hitch with a Wilco swing away hitch for a basket when I need to carry more. I also have a thule rocket box and rhino rack batwing awning. With all this my back was sagging more than usual when it was loaded with all our camp gear.

tomorrow I'm getting new struts (OEM) all aound since they're starting to leak (102k miles on the E). i assume the new struts will help with this, but from everyones experience on this forum do you think the aerogenics 1.5/1 spacers is a good call to add? I also just put on a set of Toyo Open Country AT 215/70-16 (stock size). I want a little more clearance and to address any sag. Your guys opinions are greatly appreciated!
 
I'm looking into this lift spacing kit as well. the 1.5/1 kit for 2010 EX 2WD, I camp a lot and receiving my Fifth Element Camping system tomorrow. Prior to this I added a hitch with a Wilco swing away hitch for a basket when I need to carry more. I also have a thule rocket box and rhino rack batwing awning. With all this my back was sagging more than usual when it was loaded with all our camp gear.

tomorrow I'm getting new struts (OEM) all aound since they're starting to leak (102k miles on the E). i assume the new struts will help with this, but from everyones experience on this forum do you think the aerogenics 1.5/1 spacers is a good call to add? I also just put on a set of Toyo Open Country AT 215/70-16 (stock size). I want a little more clearance and to address any sag. Your guys opinions are greatly appreciated!
I own a 2005 awd ex and have added the 2” strut puck lift kit from hrg engineering as well as some 235/70/16’s with 1” wheel spacers, with mostly success. When i got this done i had my quick-struts, bushings, tie rod ends etc replaced with A1 parts. She’s got 160,000 miles on her and has been rallied hard in mex. Idk if theyre shitty parts or if they were improperly installed or both but the undercarriage has been quite clunky since it was worked on a few months ago.
Still think the 2” lift is a good idea...woild have done a 3” if hrg had not told me that the extra inch would not actually transplate into another inch under the oilpan, that it maxes at 2” with their kits. You could maybe gain some xtra ground clearance with coilpver shocks perhaps tho i dont know this
With 2” wheel spacers u might be far enuf away from the front strut cups to fit 235/75/16’s
Anyways, congrats on ur camper, would do the same if there wernt so many miles on Ellie already.
Curious, how did you mount the rhino rack 270• batwing awning??? I have some oem racks, and am having a time figuring it out...🧐
 
I own a 2005 awd ex and have added the 2” strut puck lift kit from hrg engineering as well as some 235/70/16’s with 1” wheel spacers, with mostly success. When i got this done i had my quick-struts, bushings, tie rod ends etc replaced with A1 parts. She’s got 160,000 miles on her and has been rallied hard in mex. Idk if theyre shitty parts or if they were improperly installed or both but the undercarriage has been quite clunky since it was worked on a few months ago.
Still think the 2” lift is a good idea...woild have done a 3” if hrg had not told me that the extra inch would not actually transplate into another inch under the oilpan, that it maxes at 2” with their kits. You could maybe gain some xtra ground clearance with coilpver shocks perhaps tho i dont know this
With 2” wheel spacers u might be far enuf away from the front strut cups to fit 235/75/16’s
Anyways, congrats on ur camper, would do the same if there wernt so many miles on Ellie already.
Curious, how did you mount the rhino rack 270• batwing awning??? I have some oem racks, and am having a time figuring it out...🧐
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I own a 2005 awd ex and have added the 2” strut puck lift kit from hrg engineering as well as some 235/70/16’s with 1” wheel spacers, with mostly success. When i got this done i had my quick-struts, bushings, tie rod ends etc replaced with A1 parts. She’s got 160,000 miles on her and has been rallied hard in mex. Idk if theyre shitty parts or if they were improperly installed or both but the undercarriage has been quite clunky since it was worked on a few months ago.
Still think the 2” lift is a good idea...woild have done a 3” if hrg had not told me that the extra inch would not actually transplate into another inch under the oilpan, that it maxes at 2” with their kits. You could maybe gain some xtra ground clearance with coilpver shocks perhaps tho i dont know this
With 2” wheel spacers u might be far enuf away from the front strut cups to fit 235/75/16’s
Anyways, congrats on ur camper, would do the same if there wernt so many miles on Ellie already.
Curious, how did you mount the rhino rack 270• batwing awning??? I have some oem racks, and am having a time figuring it out...🧐
i mean the coilovers might let u get away eith bigger tires
 
Aerogenics Lift

Report on Aerogenics Lift Kit

2010 Element eCamper, 26k miles

1.5" front Aerogenics
1" rear Aerogenics
Stock Rims
Falken 235 70/16
3/4" bolt on solid aluminum rim spacers

I wanted a mild lift to keep wear on the CVs low and dependability high. Potential Mexico extended trips.

I wanted the larger than stock AT tires to add about an an additional 1" lift and mild/medium sand/mud/snow capability.

I had my mechanic do the work - they have lift experience on many vehicles- $700 labor.

The one surprise was that the tires on the stock rims would not work without the spacers. I had not read any info about that anywhere even though many show pics of those tires on stock rims. It was a little glitch but worked out ok with the mild 3/4" bolt on spacers.

I measured the car height before the lift and after. It gained a +3" total lift. That seemed odd given the tire was about +1" and the lift was 1.5"+ max. Ended up being a bit higher than anticipated and that is good. Drives well, no noticeable difference and the road noise of the tires is fairly low. Spacing between the inside of the tire and the struts is the same as before due to the 3/4" spacer. No rubbing on max turns. No anticipated rubbing in med hard turn with tire roll. I am happy with the results.
Please submit some pictures wil love to see how looks like. sounds great.
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