is this the next element?
bennyG19
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Yuck!
What is that huge wide rocker panel trim lookin thing along the lower sides? And it goes up and across the lower hatch for some unknown reason? And the indented seam down the side? And those rear lights running clear up to the roof....you almost expect them to flash in a relay pattern up and down like a UFO. This looks like something that would have been real hip and mod --- in 1976. Sort of a "mod squad-esque" Ford Econoline VAN transformed into an SUV. All it lacks for the true "look" is some louvers over the rear windows and the Charlie's Angels white & blue or red & black Mustang Cobra color scheme (and I should know, I owned one).
I see no hints of the Element here except the quasi-rectangle shape and maybe the rear windows. It's just too BLAH to be the next gen E if you ask me...and knowing Honda, the prototype would be a color, not cream. Honda's idea of bland seems to be grey or silver, not off white. And finally, this thing has ZERO style, No suicide doors, no sunroof, no color, no contrast, no trim to speak of - it's just like everything else on the road - what's to differentiate it from a a car-pool mom's CRV? The whole idea of the E was to make it different and make it stand out...I don't see Honda throwing that out the window for basically a rather lumpy plain version of a CRV. That rear end has just a horrible line to it with that lumpy "bar" across it and those bad "Flash Gordon Faux spaceship" looking lights on there. It goes straight from "goober" to galaxy quest" between the front bumper and the back.
I am so wondering about this new trend of breaking up every possible "line" in cars with big boxy wide trims and square cut "picket fence" moldings and fender trims and bumper guards stuck on everywhere like an afterthought. Oh, I guess smooth and sleek is so "yesterday" - people want the Tonka Truck or Fischer Price Bus, look now. The E may be boxy, but it has great lines and it flows from front to back in a smooth, cohesive way. PLEASE Honda, don't start stickin "shoebox under the blanket" lumps all over our boxy-enough E's or making it look like a mini, econo version of the CRV.
I don't know WHAT that prototype is, but it doesn't matter because I would never buy one. And THAT being an E would be like givin us a lump of bland, taseless, pasty bread dough instead of our fun, shiny, hot electric toaster.
What is that huge wide rocker panel trim lookin thing along the lower sides? And it goes up and across the lower hatch for some unknown reason? And the indented seam down the side? And those rear lights running clear up to the roof....you almost expect them to flash in a relay pattern up and down like a UFO. This looks like something that would have been real hip and mod --- in 1976. Sort of a "mod squad-esque" Ford Econoline VAN transformed into an SUV. All it lacks for the true "look" is some louvers over the rear windows and the Charlie's Angels white & blue or red & black Mustang Cobra color scheme (and I should know, I owned one).
I see no hints of the Element here except the quasi-rectangle shape and maybe the rear windows. It's just too BLAH to be the next gen E if you ask me...and knowing Honda, the prototype would be a color, not cream. Honda's idea of bland seems to be grey or silver, not off white. And finally, this thing has ZERO style, No suicide doors, no sunroof, no color, no contrast, no trim to speak of - it's just like everything else on the road - what's to differentiate it from a a car-pool mom's CRV? The whole idea of the E was to make it different and make it stand out...I don't see Honda throwing that out the window for basically a rather lumpy plain version of a CRV. That rear end has just a horrible line to it with that lumpy "bar" across it and those bad "Flash Gordon Faux spaceship" looking lights on there. It goes straight from "goober" to galaxy quest" between the front bumper and the back.
I am so wondering about this new trend of breaking up every possible "line" in cars with big boxy wide trims and square cut "picket fence" moldings and fender trims and bumper guards stuck on everywhere like an afterthought. Oh, I guess smooth and sleek is so "yesterday" - people want the Tonka Truck or Fischer Price Bus, look now. The E may be boxy, but it has great lines and it flows from front to back in a smooth, cohesive way. PLEASE Honda, don't start stickin "shoebox under the blanket" lumps all over our boxy-enough E's or making it look like a mini, econo version of the CRV.
I don't know WHAT that prototype is, but it doesn't matter because I would never buy one. And THAT being an E would be like givin us a lump of bland, taseless, pasty bread dough instead of our fun, shiny, hot electric toaster.
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I don't think it is domestic.....steering wheel on the wrong side....may Subaru since they don't have anything to compete with a mini-van.
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The basic shape, front end, headlights, stance, lower ride, and smaller more compact height look rather Scion xB to me.
Notice how people are taller than the vehicle. That is rather Scion, not E. Also note the roundish or oval shaped spot for company logo. That also suggests Scion or ford.
I hope it is not the E. If it is it shrunk.
Maybe it is a Japan only model, where smaller is better (remember that the Element was too BIG for that market).
Notice how people are taller than the vehicle. That is rather Scion, not E. Also note the roundish or oval shaped spot for company logo. That also suggests Scion or ford.
I hope it is not the E. If it is it shrunk.
Maybe it is a Japan only model, where smaller is better (remember that the Element was too BIG for that market).
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It's not the Ford Fairlane... Posts on Autoblog and TOV were pretty specific about that...
I'm tempted to believe that it may be the Element.
It has:
The same shape to the front (flat grille with headlights at angles to the corners)
The same filled triangles in the corners of the windows.
The same styling on the rear hatch (extend the taillights on the current element to the top corners, and viola!).
If it is indeed the Element, it would appear that Honda is launching a ManPAD of a product straight at it's radar lock on Scion.
It has:
The same shape to the front (flat grille with headlights at angles to the corners)
The same filled triangles in the corners of the windows.
The same styling on the rear hatch (extend the taillights on the current element to the top corners, and viola!).
If it is indeed the Element, it would appear that Honda is launching a ManPAD of a product straight at it's radar lock on Scion.
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First off what's a JDM car doing in LA? If it's not coming to the US having it run around in LA doesn't make much sense. I also don't see Ford doing a proto in right side stearing.
If it's the new xB then, Scion has gone E in a big way. That doesn't sound like what they are going to do. Also the new xB is on a larger chassis than the current version.
My bet is it's another Japanese manufacturer other than Toyota or Honda.
Bob
First off what's a JDM car doing in LA? If it's not coming to the US having it run around in LA doesn't make much sense. I also don't see Ford doing a proto in right side stearing.
If it's the new xB then, Scion has gone E in a big way. That doesn't sound like what they are going to do. Also the new xB is on a larger chassis than the current version.
My bet is it's another Japanese manufacturer other than Toyota or Honda.
Bob
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It's an imported vehicle... I think it is the new Honda crossover SUV that was originally supposed to hit the market in spring 2007, so seeing it now makes sense in terms of timing... the redesigned E is not supposed to be out until 2009 production year, so that would be premature to have a production model ready this early (I would assume Honda would release it on the auto show circuits long before spyshots are available).
I've hear the new crossover will be shorter than the CRV, but will offer additional seating in the rear to seat seven.
Also, Scion released the second generation of scions a couple of weeks ago, and this wasn't one of their models.
The more I am reading about this vehicle, the more I get the impression it's a Honda.
I've hear the new crossover will be shorter than the CRV, but will offer additional seating in the rear to seat seven.
Also, Scion released the second generation of scions a couple of weeks ago, and this wasn't one of their models.
The more I am reading about this vehicle, the more I get the impression it's a Honda.
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Check it out here:
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=644381
Whatever it is, I'm 100% sure it's a Honda product, and 100% sure that it's not the next Element.
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=644381
Whatever it is, I'm 100% sure it's a Honda product, and 100% sure that it's not the next Element.
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Shen, Thanks for clearing this up!!!!!Sheniferous said:
If that is a Honda, and does make it to the US, that would give Honda not 2 but 3 SUV's in the small-midsize category. In that case, the Element would probably disappear, much like the Prelude and CR-X, both of which had sizable fan-bases. Honda tends not to duplicate their entries into each field by much, unlike GM and Ford, which are much larger companies. With the Pilot, CR-V, AND Ridgeline, I can't see the Element being sold alongside a US spec HR-V. Considering that the Element hasn't been quite the success they'd hoped, and sales continue to drop even allowing for the new features and model line-up. Giving the HR-V a bit more size under its belt, along with rear doors would cover the cheaper Civic-based SUV category, with the CR-V slightly more upmarket.bennyG19 said:
Also, 2009 seems a bit late for a redesign, unless they truly have banished the Element to the back bumper. Throughout most of its carbuilding life, Honda has maintained 4-year design cycles, usually with a 2 year intermediate makeover. Since around 2000, it has risen to 5 years (the CR-V was 97-01, 02-06, 07+)... hopefully this isn't a sign that the size of Honda's lineup has taken its toll on their design department, resulting in more stagnation between remakes. I'd hate to see a Honda version of the Ford Panther and Fox platforms, or the GM W and J bodies! The Panther (Crown Vic, TownCar, and Grand Marquis) has carried on since the late 70s without a ground-up revision, and the Fox (Mustang) lasted from 1979-2004, with cosmetic changes in 1994 and 1999.
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Hey can we get an animated smiley that pukes? Seeing that photo I think we need one here.
That won't be MY next element. If thats where the Element goes design wise I'll keep mine going until its dead - knowing Hondas that could be a while - and then I'll find something else to drive.
It looks like something the Ford designers (aka morons) came up with - and people wonder why they lose truckloads of money.
That won't be MY next element. If thats where the Element goes design wise I'll keep mine going until its dead - knowing Hondas that could be a while - and then I'll find something else to drive.
It looks like something the Ford designers (aka morons) came up with - and people wonder why they lose truckloads of money.
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Not that it really matters, but the "fox body" Mustangs were produced from 1979 until 1993.Flobox said:
The Fox platform itself was used on several vehicles during that time and was introduced in 1978 in the Ford Fairmont and Lincoln Zephyr.
The Mustang was redesigned in 1994 and replaced with the SN-95 platform.
Just a little mullet history for ya.
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