[hurk]

Thanks. Is a special tool required to pull the relay? I can't depress the tabs & pull the thing out. doh. If I do get it out, how do you test it.

The starter was replaced by the Honda dealer this year. Testing voltage at the starter is going to be a chore, but I'll give it a shot.
Is the starter solenoid on the starter or what?

I'd guess the brake pedal switch is working: when the pedal isn't depressed, the shifter can't be moved, but when pressing the brake pedal (key ON), I can move the gear shifter thru the gears & the brake lights are coming on.

http://www.skidmore.edu/~pdwyer/e/udfrb.htm

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[hurk]

The locking tabs are on the fuse box (interior). That's why I asked. :-o
The relays in the engine bay junction box don't have locking tabs, though.



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[hurk]

Thanks. I was going to swap relays, but I guess I'll need some sort of relay puller --- the thing is hard to pull out, especially while trying to keep those tabs out of the way. I tried wiggling it back n forth, but it doesn't move much & won't budge. doh.


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[hurk]

Update --- Unusual Fix.

The car was towed to the dealer. They say they found that the starter connector was disconnected: apparently, when they replaced the starter last spring, the electrical connector to the starter was not plugged in properly & it came out, so they reconnected it & checked over the car & apologized for the inconvenience. no charge --- that's a first.
I guess this is a plausible explanation. ???