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TPMS light

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#1 ·
TPMS light is on! We've only had the car for 3 days and something is already going wrong! Arrgh. :mad: Anyone else have that prob? Hubby checked the pressure but the light never went off.
 
#3 ·
Well, at first it was the TPMS light so we took it in and it turns out that the original dealer never initiated the computer system like they are supposed to. Couple of days later the darn low pressure indic. came on. Took it in today, they want to keep it for a day to fix it. The guy said that the computer registered 145psi and a temp of -54 F. So now we're gonna try to get it to the dealership where we bought the E from tomorrow (the place where we took it for service is closer to out house but they tried to tell us they couldn't provide us w/ a loaner for the day--BS!! :mad:) and get a loaner from them for the day. I just can't believe we're off to such a bad start- AGAIN! Our last car (Chevy Aveo) had more things wrong with it than my previous '88 Buick! So we've had some BAD car luck lately. Hopefully once this is fixed all will be well!

So has anyone got a clue what could be wrong with the car's 'puter?? Just curious.
 
#4 ·
TPMS in general is a poor, albeit expensive, solution to a $0.99 pressure gage. The sending unit is part of the internal structure of the valve stem and is prone to damage when the tire is removed from the wheel. The receiver will usually need to be re-initialized after any power interruption.
If I was subjected to TPMS in my Element it would have been the first garbage I would have torn out and thrown away. All TPMS is is a feign of interest for your personal safety from the auto industry after the Ford Exploder debacle. Nobody needs it so just turn it off, if you can. Even if you were so incompetent you could not check your own tire pressure, the place you undoubtedly get your oil changed at will check it for you.:rolleyes:
 
#5 ·
I have to strongly disagree, (maybe because of my complete and utter lack of faith in humans in general), but anyone who commutes has seen, and this seems to be with the most expensive cars, the idiots flying down the fast lane, tires an inch off the rim, or bald. Most of them are one or two-year-old cars that are filthy. No matter, most are leased. Tear 'em up and trade em in.

If these idiots are too lazy to drive through a carwash or (heaven forbid), open a hood and actuall pull a dipstick, what makes you think they will bend over and unscrew a valve cap, not including the fact that most don't even own a tire gauge.

Everyone here keeps a close eye on their Es, but for everyone else, and every manufacturer that installs it, I'm glad that little light is there. Maybe with it glaring at them, some may actually take care of their tires.

After all, the ass it saves...may be mine.
 
#6 ·
I'm split on TPMS' usefulness. I like that it will tell me if something is wrong (like I wouldn't notice at 80 mph when a tire lets go) but, I swapped wheels and haven't done the reprogram yet. So I just check 'em on the weekend. The dam light is buggin' me tho.

Some people don't pay any attention to tire pressure as stated above. TPMS should at least help the clueless (anti darwinism).:roll:

We are different. I'm willing to bet that everyone here is some kind of car nut and knows better than most.

Kind of a pain in the ass to have a brand new car throwin' lights at you. Hope all gets better.:)
 
#8 ·
We are different. I'm willing to bet that everyone here is some kind of car nut and knows better than most.
Bet taken :D

A ton of us here couldn't care less about vehicles until we bought our E's. Sure I'm learning a lot but I only really care about my E.



 
#7 ·
If you like to inflate your tires to the manufacturer's recommended PSI (as I do), the TPMS on the Elements is useless. It will light up in the mornings when the outside temp is cool, and go off in the afternoons when the temp warms up. A warning light that is on regularly loses its "warning!" functionality, doesn't it?

You will need to over-inflate your tires to make sure the TPMS stays off. I run mine at 35 front and 37 rear.

One of the 367 quirks you will have to get used to as an Element owner.
 
#27 ·
i'm gonna have to try that - thanks!!

btw, do you ever use those automatic tire pressure stations (like at kwik trip, but that's in WI)? i tried one today but it never beeped, so i had to check the pressure with my regular tire pressure gauge. i have to admit that i always have trouble maintaining the perfect connection when filling tires, as i'm always seeming to have the thing just a little to the right or left, so am at times losing a little air. guess i just don't know how to hold it on there perfectly.

but today i had to actually take out a little air on each one after getting no beep on the automatic thing - & the unit seemed to be turning off after a specific time (no beep tho).
 
#11 ·
Tire Air Pressure Light

After registering only 700 miles in my new Element, to my dismay, a weird display light showed up. It was a light that roughly looked like this ( ! ) and had an orange backlight. After reading my owners manual, I learned that this was the tire air pressure light monitor telling me I had low tire pressure.

How sensitive is this thing? What psi do the tires have to go under for you to actually worry? The tires look like they're good with no low pressure sag or anything.

Any help would be most appreciated!
 
#12 ·
Mine did it shortly after driving off lot. It seems to be a common thing. mine would go off after driving a short ditance and tires warmed up (in Apr). Now with warmer weather it hasn't come on at all. I would check your tire pressure since it is warm out now. Probably a minor decrease in pressure in one or more tires.
 
#13 ·
We have been in the low 100s for about a month now... today was a freakishly odd day as it *gasp* rained and only topped out at 73 degrees (cooler than most of our low temperatures as of late). So you think it could only be based off of temperature disparity?

Thanks!

I'm car-tarded.
 
#14 ·
Temp can definitely have an effect on tire pressure. Since yours is on now and its HOT, I'd bet your pressure is off in one or more of them. I'm not sure but I thought in the owners manual somewhere it says what the recommended pressure is.It also should be on the inside of your door. I think in my case my pressure is near the "threshold" since it was on when the tires were cold in cooler temps and went off after I drove a bit. It'll probably start coming back on as the temps start cooloing in the fall.
 
#15 ·
1- Go to an auto parts store and buy a tire gauge.

2- Check the sticker on the edge of the driver's side door for the recommended tire pressure.

3- Use your new tire gauge to verify the required pressure and increase if necessary.

See? Easy.
 
#16 ·
Do what GaryS said. I have not had the low pressure light come on in my E. But I check my tires regularly. It has come on in the wife’s CR-V a couple times. It seems to be when it gets below 28 lb PSI. I When it comes on I can not look at the tire and see it is low.
 
#17 · (Edited)
Yeah yeah, I got that part... I also know of many places to get free air, just quite puzzled as to why the light came on as it must be really sensitive.

If anyone knew what PSI triggered the sensor, that'd definitely aid me if the light ever came on again on a long roadtrip (planning on one to Florida).

As a sidenote, most comparable SUVs I roadtested actually have the different pressures displayed on the monitor so you didn't have to do it the old fashioned way. Even the cheap Suzuki SL7! I've always been partial to Hondas and loved the E's wide open feel, so the E won, even though there are some things I need to get used to (no outside temperature gauge, the steering wheel instrument lights don't light up at night - didn't see that on the test drive at 2 pm -, etc).

Overall I'm pleased with the Element, however in my own humble opinion, although it is meant to be a rugged, practical vehicle, I think it is lacking on some of the niceities that would take it to the next level.
 
#18 ·
I had the same problem two weeks ago (after having my E about a month). I looked at my tires and they all looked fine. I then checked them with a pressure gage; 2 were at about 28 psi and the other two were around 30 psi. That didn't seem too low to me (although lower than the recommended pressure). I then filled them all to 32-34 psi, drove for about 5 minutes and the light turned off. It's been fine since then. I guess these sensors are a little sensitive (which is probably a good thing).
 
#19 ·
TPMS light stays illuminated.

Just a FYI - tire composition (carbon content and steel belt content) can affect TPMS function. Case in point - I purchased a 2008 Element EX 4wd last September 2007. After putting 5oo miles on it, I decided I didn't like the stock Goodyear tires so I had Bridgestone Dueler Alenza's put on of the same size. After driving 30 miles, the TPMS light came on. After several visits, HONDA OF SEATTLE determined that it was the carbon content in the tires that was interferring with the TPMS signal. I'm still going back and forth with American Honda on this mainly since they don't publish a disclaimer about deviating from the "factory tire". I did find a link that talks about this issue and thought you might find it interesting:

http://www.citizen.org/documents/Petition for Reconsideration.pdf
 
#21 ·
Just a FYI - tire composition (carbon content and steel belt content) can affect TPMS function. Case in point - I purchased a 2008 Element EX 4wd last September 2007. After putting 5oo miles on it, I decided I didn't like the stock Goodyear tires so I had Bridgestone Dueler Alenza's put on of the same size. After driving 30 miles, the TPMS light came on. After several visits, HONDA OF SEATTLE determined that it was the carbon content in the tires that was interferring with the TPMS signal. I'm still going back and forth with American Honda on this mainly since they don't publish a disclaimer about deviating from the "factory tire". I did find a link that talks about this issue and thought you might find it interesting:

http://www.citizen.org/documents/Petition for Reconsideration.pdf
news to me, but holy crap, you've gotta be f-ing kidding me... you can't win can you?
 
#31 ·
TPMS Light

I have a 2008 SC in which I just added one of those factory radio Bluetooth addons. It plugs into the CD port and give wireless music and phone connection. Only to discover the TPMS Light (not tire symbol) came on a short time after. Now nothing else had changed so I removed the bluetooth device which was lying behind the radio, come to find out the TPMS receiving device sits right above that area.
This makes me wonder if any bluetooth device could cause this problem, even a headset. Not sure, but it's something we all can keep in mind when adding these things or get a TPMS warning light. My device seems to have a different frequency, but maybe still causes interference.
 
#33 ·
I have a 2008 SC in which I just added one of those factory radio Bluetooth addons. It plugs into the CD port and give wireless music and phone connection. Only to discover the TPMS Light (not tire symbol) came on a short time after. Now nothing else had changed so I removed the bluetooth device which was lying behind the radio, come to find out the TPMS receiving device sits right above that area.
This makes me wonder if any bluetooth device could cause this problem, even a headset. Not sure, but it's something we all can keep in mind when adding these things or get a TPMS warning light. My device seems to have a different frequency, but maybe still causes interference.
The TPMS is 315 Mhz. Bluetooth is 2.45 Ghz. That said all sorts of RF devices give off noise well outside their intended space.

If you want to know - pull the battery for a bit which will reset the TPMS. Leave the Bluetooth device disconnected and see if the TPMS comes back in a few days.

I hope you are on to something as I have a Bluetooth device in the console and a TPMS light.
 
#32 ·
One question: When did Honda start putting the TPMS on Elements?

Unless I'm sadly mistaken, my '03 doesn't have it. There's nothing about it in the owners manual, anyway.

Time for me to show may age and rant a little: FWIW, a TPMS is nothing but another useless and cheaply made device to go wrong on a car! I figure most of us are smart enough to know how to use a simple tire gauge, and we don't need some cheap BS 21st century device to tell us something is amiss with our tires!

I feel better now! : - )
 
#34 ·
One question: When did Honda start putting the TPMS on Elements?

Unless I'm sadly mistaken, my '03 doesn't have it. There's nothing about it in the owners manual, anyway.

Time for me to show may age and rant a little: FWIW, a TPMS is nothing but another useless and cheaply made device to go wrong on a car! I figure most of us are smart enough to know how to use a simple tire gauge, and we don't need some cheap BS 21st century device to tell us something is amiss with our tires!

I feel better now! : - )
;-);-);-);-)What He Said !!