[coqui1970]

Works Great

FWIW, the 2009-10 Element switch (35256-SCV-A31) works and can be had for about $54 here (and elsewhere, likely). List is $74.

The next person to do this mod should contact me for pigtails. I just pulled the wires from a Metra 71-1721 connector, and they look like they might work. I'll send one of those (as well as a Honda 04320-SP0-A00 / 04320-SP0-B00 for the switch end) to whoever is willing to see if the Metra pigtail works in the X connector. I'll send a Tyco #173681-6 pigtail along as well in case the Metra part doesn't fit.

I just completed the mod over the weekend and had tested and it works fantastic. I used the pilot switch it was cheaper. Big thanks to ramblerdan for the support with the pigtails and advise. Looking foward for the next challenge maybe the fog ligths

 

[Free_man_E]

Question?
bh241 or ramblerdan might be able to answer this one.

Where does the windshield wiper controller get its speed tack
information? Is it a variable freq. tack pulse from the computer or is it
a hi/low signal from the computer that changes states @ 12 mph?
I was thinking this info might help people installing a satellite
navigation head unit in 07 or newer E’s that require a tack
speed pulse.

 

[bh241]

I'm not sure to be honest with you. I wish I had a spare one to 'play around' with, if anyone runs across an UDFR box just laying around... :roll:

Seems Honda doesn't release any info of what's going on in that magic box, so we're just going to have to figure it out. 8)

 

[Yoda E SC]

my intermittents dont change speed based on if i am sitting still or moving like an 06 accord i used to have did. this would make me think that there is no correlation between the wiper speed and the vehicle speed. If there was it would most likely be done over the can network as there is no true dedicated VSS wire anywhere in the 07-08's, we have access to Service Express at work and i have checked it over very thoroughly, many times. :-(

 

[Free_man_E]

my intermittents dont change speed based on if i am sitting still or moving like an 06 accord i used to have did. this would make me think that there is no correlation between the wiper speed and the vehicle speed. If there was it would most likely be done over the can network as there is no true dedicated VSS wire anywhere in the 07-08's, we have access to Service Express at work and i have checked it over very thoroughly, many times. :-(

Have you done this mod on your car? If you didn't, the original intermittent
setting didn't change with speed. Also (I think) older E's didn't use the CAN
network for everything. I've seen people with 06 and older E's say that with
this mod there intermittent speed changes with road speed. It's also my assumption
that Honda hasn't made any changed to the design of the windshield wiper controller
over the years.

 

[Yoda E SC]

i stand corrected. although i have done this i never really use the intermitant feature, in florida it is either sunny or pouring down rain, no such thing as a light mist. i did go out and try it since you mentioned it though, and you are correct.

prior to 07 (06 and before) the E had a true VSS and it entered the fuse box on pin E4 and went out a few other places to other components and inside is probably where it is processed to help with the wiper speed. on the 07-up however this must be done VIA CAN like it is everywhere else as mine still do the described increase in speed while moving (and it is just moving or not moving that causes the speed up in the wipers not actual variation based on actual vehicle speed) but there is no longer dedicated VSS at the fuse box (or anywhere else in the truck), as seen in the plug diagram.

One more thing. although i encourage those looking to do this mod the way it was originally done (as i did and like OP did with pretty factory parts) you can just pin the fuse box with the pinned wires and throw a potentiometer (25k ohm) in there and mount it and get the same results for much cheaper. the quickest int speed on the factory switch is 1.8 ohms (basically a dead short) and the slowest setting is 27k ohms. this will only affect the wipers when in int just like the factory switch. just throwing that out there for those that want this mod but are short on cash.

 

[Free_man_E]

Oh well I thought I was on to something. It's hard to believe that Honda
would redesigned the fuse box assembly between the 06-07 years.
Maybe if I get ambitious someday I'll probe around with my digital
scopemeter to see if I can find anything.

 

[woosterpuss]

little help!!

i am having a devil of a time getting the connectors for the wiper switch.
my local dealer was able to find me one!
there no donor cars at the salvage yards.
can someone send me one?? am willing to pay!!
also, i have a few extra connectors for the the 'x' plug. pm me and i am happy to share.

 

[ramblerdan]

The X connector pigtails are the difficult ones to find; the ones for the switch end are easy!

04320-SP0-A00 or 04320-SP0-B00

04320-SP0-A00 at Bernardi
at Hondapartsnow
at Hondapartsdeals

They run about $10 for a package of 10, plus shipping of course.

Where did you find X connector pigtails, and did you get a Honda part number?

 

[woosterpuss]

The X connector pigtails are the difficult ones to find; the ones for the switch end are easy!

04320-SP0-A00 or 04320-SP0-B00

04320-SP0-A00 at Bernardi
at Hondapartsnow
at Hondapartsdeals

They run about $10 for a package of 10, plus shipping of course.

Where did you find X connector pigtails, and did you get a Honda part number?

thanks dan!
bernardi is like 20mins from my house. but to pick up would mean paying retail. if they let me pick them up. i talked to someone there a while ago who was not the friendliest.
the X connectors i got from a harness like the metra. but made by american international. part no. HWH-807.
there are 8 of the little buggers in the harness. unfortunately the larger outer plugs are not big enough.

seriously though, i only need one frakkin' wiper plug! someone? please??

 

[woosterpuss]

my remaining x connectors are spoken for! all gone.

 

[toddcronk]

wiper mod

I have just done the wiper mod with honda part # 35256-S9V-A01. everything works correct, took about 15 min to do, got all the pins needed from a junkyard for $5.00, if any one needs some pins let me know, I have enough to do at least 5 more cars. wire on pins is cut about three inches long to make soldering easy.

 

[Junebug]

Do you have the x connectors or the other ones?

if any one needs some pins let me know, I have enough to do at least 5 more cars. wire on pins is cut about three inches long to make soldering easy.

 

[toddcronk]

Do you have the x connectors or the other ones?

The pins I have are for the X connector and the connector on the wiper switch, these are the correct pins needed for doing this mod, four pins total.

 

[toddcronk]

pin are all gone

 

[Yoda E SC]

the ones from the 7992 are the ones for the switch arent they?

 

[ramblerdan]

The pigtails for the switch are the easy-to-find Honda p/n 04320-SP0-A00 and 04320-SP0-B00. The Metra 71-7992 is a possible substitute for the Tyco #173681-6 and the elusive Honda pigtail for the X connector. The 7992 looks close, to my eyeballs, but AFAIK hasn't been tested yet.

If we could just get a Honda part number for the correct X connector pigtail, life would be beautiful.

[Edit: The 71-7992 does fit the X connector.]

 

[Yoda E SC]

The pigtails for the switch are the easy-to-find Honda p/n 04320-SP0-A00 and 04320-SP0-B00. The Metra 71-7992 is a possible substitute for the Tyco #173681-6 and the elusive Honda pigtail for the X connector. The 7992 looks close, to my eyeballs, but AFAIK hasn't been tested yet.

If we could just get a Honda part number for the correct X connector pigtail, life would be beautiful.

so we know the 173681-x terminals are the ones that fit and lock into the x connector?

 

[ramblerdan]

Several owners have reported success with the Tyco #173681-6 in the X connector. The trouble is that the manufacturer wants to sell them in large lots, and folks have gotten around that only by requesting free samples. Doubtless Tyco's generosity on that score is limited. If the Metra 71-7992 can be proven to work [Edit: It has been proven.], it will be a boon, as they're easy to get.

 

[usedep3]

That's the funny part... the wires are not in the harness! You'll have to run two wires from the UDFR's "X" connector on the back, to the two additional pins on the Pilot's switch.

Just run a couple of wires, connect the UDFR's "X" connector pin # 4 to the new Pilot's switch pin # 9, and the UDFR's "X" connector pin # 3 to the Pilot switch pin # 10.

yes, it's a royal pain to do.... especially for a middle aged (maybe a tad more than middle.... :roll: ) guy....

The "X" connector:

Yes, it's located on the back of the UDFR Box

Here's the two wires in place:

The two wires need to go up to the Wiper/Washer Switch.

I would recommend going to Honda and trying to get the 'pigtail' connectors - I didn't but then again, I do work in an electronics shop. :wink:

i've skimmed through the 16 pages the other day. i just want to confirm something.

so, there are no pig tails connected to #9 and #10 on the harness side of the switch?

but there are wires already connected to #3 and #4 on the x-connector? are we replacing these wires?