[coopdiggitymofo]

Difference?

Can't seem to find a thread on this...but can anyone tell me if it's better to bypass the factory amp? Or use the metra harness with the RCA plugs and actually use the factory amp?

I have a pioneer DEH-p7700 which has a 50WX4 amp, and has always sounded great when hooked up straight to speakers in other vehicles I've had. I just want the best output, without wasting money on two harnesses just to test both ways. Thanks in advance...

 

[Yoda E SC]

if you bypass the factory amp totally then you will lose the factory sub. you could rig it up so that the deck powered the other speakers and the sub was still powered by the factory amp, but that would involve cutting and things that i wouldnt do personally. use the 1725 harness and tap into the sub input and be done.

 

[coopdiggitymofo]

Okay cool, but what if I just run the speaker wires straight from the head unit to the interior speakers, and keep the sub wired like BigAl's "schematic" on the first page of this thread. That'll work right?

 

[Yoda E SC]

you could, but have you seen how the rear doors are wired from the factory? the front doors wouldnt be that big of a deal.

 

[coopdiggitymofo]

Yeah, I know it's quite a long trail of wiring, but somewhere on here I found a post that had a schematic of the speaker outputs from the actual amp under the passenger side dash. So that being said I could wire them right up to the wires running into the outputs from all the speakers. I am not too worried about giving it a shot, but I cannot find anyone on here who has done it with results, whether they are positive or negative.

 

[E*lement*OP]

Retaining the AUX input with an aftermarket headunit

the same thing that is done with the subwoofer plug but with the center pin of rca going to the left aux wire, one going to the right aux wire and both shields on the rca going to the aux s gnd wire.

Hi Yoda,

With respect to hooking up the OEM AUX Input to an aftermarket headunit, I have the following questions:

1. The wiring diagram you referenced shows that there are 5 wires in the AUX harness (Yellow, Blue, White, Brown, Green). You mentioned above to connect the center pin of the LEFT RCA to the LEFT AUX wire (white) and the RIGHT RCA center pin to the RIGHT AUX wire (brown) and finally the shields of both RCA's to the one AUX S Ground (green). Do both the Yellow and Blue wires on the harness get left alone? What's the difference between the "S Ground" and the "Ground"?

2. Unlike the connection for the sub harness, you actually to use both the LEFT and RIGHT RCA's...is that correct?

3. On the back of my headunit (Pioneer AVH-P4100DVD), I have a left and right "Audio In" that will accept the RCA's. Will my AUX input work if I plug the RCA's into these inputs or do I need a specific "AUX input" on the back of my headunit?

Thanks!

 

[Yoda E SC]

Hi Yoda,

With respect to hooking up the OEM AUX Input to an aftermarket headunit, I have the following questions:

1. The wiring diagram you referenced shows that there are 5 wires in the AUX harness (Yellow, Blue, White, Brown, Green). You mentioned above to connect the center pin of the LEFT RCA to the LEFT AUX wire (white) and the RIGHT RCA center pin to the RIGHT AUX wire (brown) and finally the shields of both RCA's to the one AUX S Ground (green). Do both the Yellow and Blue wires on the harness get left alone? YES
2. Unlike the connection for the sub harness, you actually to use both the LEFT and RIGHT RCA's...is that correct? YES

3. On the back of my headunit (Pioneer AVH-P4100DVD), I have a left and right "Audio In" that will accept the RCA's. Will my AUX input work if I plug the RCA's into these inputs YES
Thanks!

that is all

 

[E*lement*OP]

Digital TV Converter

Thanks Yoda!

Any experience with installing a digital tv converter/antenna and a power inverter? I found a guy online who was able to do this setup and watch live tv on the same Pioneer HU that I bought.

Thoughts, advice, links?

 

[Yoda E SC]

Thanks Yoda!

Any experience with installing a digital tv converter/antenna and a power inverter? I found a guy online who was able to do this setup and watch live tv on the same Pioneer HU that I bought.

Thoughts, advice, links?

sorry, dont condone it, you could end up like this...;-)

 

[E*lement*OP]

Here in SoCal, it's tough to get above 15MPH with our congested freeway traffic. I'd probably be better off driving through the weeds on the side of the freeway :razz:

I guess I was more curious about whether or not it could be done, as there really isn't a practical application for my situation. Now if I was more of an avid camper...hmm.

 

[Eww-an E]

Any experience with installing a digital tv converter/antenna and a power inverter? I found a guy online who was able to do this setup and watch live tv on the same Pioneer HU that I bought.

Thoughts, advice, links?

Here's a thread that I contributed to with info. about my install that might be of interest to you.

http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57552

 

[E*lement*OP]

Here's a thread that I contributed to with info. about my install that might be of interest to you.

http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57552

Just the thread I was looking for! I just sent you a PM Eww-an E and I was hoping you could walk me through your setup in more detail. More specifically, I'm wondering how you ended up powering the DTV Converter box.

I'm hoping to have all my items delivered by next week so I can install next weekend.

Thanks!:grin:

 

[Eww-an E]

Just the thread I was looking for! I just sent you a PM Eww-an E and I was hoping you could walk me through your setup in more detail. More specifically, I'm wondering how you ended up powering the DTV Converter box.

I'm hoping to have all my items delivered by next week so I can install next weekend.

Thanks!:grin:

You're welcome,it's actually pretty easy to do. I'll respond to your PM in a few minutes.

 

[E*lement*OP]

Antenna power wire?

So I just finished my install of my Pioneer AVH-P4100DVD headunit and I have a question:

1. The antenna adapter that I received from Crutchfield has a blue wire on it as well as the adapter piece that fits into the OEM antenna wire. The radio on my new HU is working WITHOUT the blue wire hooked up; is it necessary to hook this wire up to say the blue wire coming out of the HU wiring harness? My AM channels seem much weaker than they did with the factory head unit and I'm wondering if it has something to do with me not hooking up this blue wire.

Thoughts?

 

[Yoda E SC]

is it necessary to hook this wire up to say the blue wire coming out of the hu wiring harness?

yes

my am channels seem much weaker than they did with the factory head unit and i'm wondering if it has something to do with me not hooking up this blue wire.

yes

 

[singletrack mind]

aftermarket hu amp vs. stock amp

I just installed a Kenwood x993 using the instructions on this site(actually eMass's directions), and realized that I basically bypassed the 22 watts per channel in the unit since I used an OEM PAC 2 with the levels turned down.

My question is should I have just bypassed the stock amp(except for the subwoofer) like one of the other write ups I've found, instead of what I've done? Or, more to the point, how much power does the stock amp have?

Thanks

 

[Eww-an E]

I just installed a Kenwood x993 using the instructions on this site(actually eMass's directions), and realized that I basically bypassed the 22 watts per channel in the unit since I used an OEM PAC 2 with the levels turned down.

My question is should I have just bypassed the stock amp(except for the subwoofer) like one of the other write ups I've found, instead of what I've done? Or, more to the point, how much power does the stock amp have?

Thanks

It seems that model unit actually has front,rear and sub RCA outputs,so I'm not really sure why you chose to use the PAC 2:? The Metra 70-1725 harness would of made your install much easier.

 

[Yoda E SC]

I just installed a Kenwood x993 using the instructions on this site(actually eMass's directions), and realized that I basically bypassed the 22 watts per channel in the unit since I used an OEM PAC 2 with the levels turned down.

My question is should I have just bypassed the stock amp(except for the subwoofer) like one of the other write ups I've found, instead of what I've done? Or, more to the point, how much power does the stock amp have?

Thanks

the "amplifier" in the element is basically an amp chip like a headunit has for the 6 regular speakers and an actual amp, but a small one, for the sub. 6 or half a dozen, no real difference in what you did or could have done.

 

[shutter2ride]

I'm also looking at going with the Pioneer AVH-P4100DVD headunit but was wondering if anyone has tried a PAC interface as quoted below - assuming that the steering wheel buttons no longer work with an aftermarket headunit... which I don't see anyone specifically mention or complain about...

PAC make interface adapters for certain radios. http://www.pac-audio.com/productSea...Search.aspx?Make=Honda&MakeId=12&Model=Element&ModelId=1244&Year=2008&YearId=19

Do the volume control buttons on the steering wheel still work with an aftermarket cd player?

 

[Yoda E SC]

metra has a new interface out called the ASWC that will auto program to the element and 80 percent of the other vehicles out there that it will work with. i know cause i still have the prototype in mine for it and they just released it at CES. ;-) you could also use the PAC SWC-PS but it is a pain to program after the install. use the 70-1725 metra harness 40-hd10 antenna adaptor and the scosche ha-1702b kit and you have all you need.